Can I keep a bredli python in a 4 foot tank it’s whole life?

[AlbinoSwissSnake]

Hey guys I’m looking at keeping a bredli python, and I was wondering if I could keep it in a 4 foot tank it’s whole life? Or will it get to be for the tank? Would it be to small to be in there when it’s a hatchling?
cheers

 

[Harpo]

No way. It will get way too big for a 4 ft. tank. You could use the 4 ft.er as a temporary enclosure for a little while while it's growing, sometime in the first year of it's life, after that you're gonna need a bigger boat.

Mine is in a 6x2x4 high.

 

[AlbinoSwissSnake]

Oh righto
Cheers

 

[Friller2009]

Hey guys I’m looking at keeping a bredli python, and I was wondering if I could keep it in a 4 foot tank it’s whole life? Or will it get to be for the tank? Would it be to small to be in there when it’s a hatchling?
cheers

Yeah gonna say no
That is a small enclosure for a bredli

 

[Benno87]

Big name breeders keep bredli in tubs smaller than that and they breed and thrive. It will be fine.

 

[JoshsAussieReptiles]

Big name breeders keep bredli in tubs smaller than that and they breed and thrive. It will be fine.

Breeding should not necessarily be a marker for thriving. Just because something is able to reproduce does not mean that it’s needs are being met. There are a variety of welfare measures that should be considered. The following are some interesting resources regarding husbandry and ways and means to broaden the horizons of the keeper and the kept.


https://open.spotify.com/show/1ZLtKj8NTfMGptfBc6vKlB?si=ESJIfrq-Qe-LvX2tApdD-Q&dl_branch=1

 

[Pythonguy1]

Hey guys I’m looking at keeping a bredli python, and I was wondering if I could keep it in a 4 foot tank it’s whole life? Or will it get to be for the tank? Would it be to small to be in there when it’s a hatchling?
cheers

Like Benno87 said, a 4 foot will be absolutely fine for a bredli. A good rule to use for determining enclosure floor length for pythons is; one square foot for every foot of snake. Therefore an 8 foot bredli can live happily in a 4 foot x 2 foot ( 8 foot is large for a bredli though).

Cheers,
Josiah.

 

[CF Constrictor]

They do like to climb, so hight should be a consideration in my opinion. You didn't quote the whole dimensions. I personaly prefer to give mine a little space to move around in, and something to climb on.

 

[AlbinoSwissSnake]

Roughly 2 foot high and deep

 

[Herpetology]

i use 4x2x2 and add a support beam right through the middle, and divide the hot end and cold end so they have to move around instead of shuffling

 

[AlbinoSwissSnake]

Can you send me a picture?

 

[Herpetology]

theres a guy selling the same as mine on reptileclassifieds - Mine have been modified to use heat cord instead of globes though


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https://www.reptileclassifieds.com.au/ads/melamine-snake-enclosures/

 

[AlbinoSwissSnake]

Oh yep cool thanks alot

 

[user 43767]

Big name breeders keep bredli in tubs smaller than that and they breed and thrive. It will be fine.

People do not "breed" them, they do that by themselves, the keepers usually artificailly incubates fertile eggs. The individuals who keep them in very small plastic tubs are mpre interested in saving space as much as anything, in tjhose situations the animals aren`t "thriving" just because they mate, no matter how many times they do that. What happened to mental and physical stimulation?
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Like Benno87 said, a 4 foot will be absolutely fine for a bredli. A good rule to use for determining enclosure floor length for pythons is; one square foot for every foot of snake. Therefore an 8 foot bredli can live happily in a 4 foot x 2 foot ( 8 foot is large for a bredli though).

Cheers,
Josiah.

Do you have a recording of a 2.5mtr python telling you how happy it is to spend it`s whole life in a 120 x 60 x 60 (cm) shoebox?

 

[AlbinoSwissSnake]

So I can keep a bredli in a 4ft. But can I put it in a 4ft as a hatchling?

 

[Herpetology]

So I can keep a bredli in a 4ft. But can I put it in a 4ft as a hatchling?

no

https://www.rejectshop.com.au/p/storage-box-5l
you keep it in this as a hatchling or similar ontop of a heatmat

read this
https://www.aussiepythons.com/forum/threads/guide-to-build-a-click-clack-dial-up-warning.93266/

 

[user 43767]

So I can keep a bredli in a 4ft. But can I put it in a 4ft as a hatchling?

Hi, absolutely YES you can, if the enclosure is well furnished the snake should THRIVE . Idiocy to suggest they will be stressed, unable to find heat. light, food and water (unless in the wild hatchlings get everything they require in a 10 ltr/simliar space as the seller recommends)??

 

[Benno87]

Hi, absolutely YES you can, if the enclosure is well furnished the snake should THRIVE . Idiocy to suggest they will be stressed, unable to find heat. light, food and water (unless in the wild hatchlings get everything they require in a 10 ltr/simliar space as the seller recommends)??

Lol your flaming people for telling him it’s fine to keep an adult in a 4 foot tank then going and telling him it’s fine to put a hatchy in a 4 foot tank. Yea it may be fine with an out going aggressive feeding hatchling. But a nervous little stress head of a hatchy will def not thrive in a 4 foot tank and will and will more than likely stop feeding no matter how well you decorate the enclosure. Have seen countless posts on FB groups where people complain about a 5 month hatch going off its food because they’ve lobbed it in an adult size enclosure. Hatchlings need to feel safe and secure and rarely leave they’re hiding spot in the wild, and the best thing to make them feel secure is a small tub with a hide in a dark spot. You can dispute that all you want but that info came straight from Roger Lester who’s been doing it longer than just about anyone else in Aus, so I know who I’ll be listening too.

 

[Pythonguy1]

Do you have a recording of a 2.5mtr python telling you how happy it is to spend it`s whole life in a 120 x 60 x 60 (cm) shoebox?

Do you have a recording of keeping a 2.5m python telling you how unhappy it is to spend it`s whole life in a 120 x 60 x 60 (cm) enclosure?
Breeders and keepers have been keeping large pythons in enclosures of this size for years. Keepers and breeders have been keeping large carpets in enclosures this size for years. Just because a bredli is kept in a large enclosure and does well doesn’t mean that a large enclosure is necessary. Read through ‘Keeping and Breeding of Australian Snakes’ and you’ll find records of people like Russel Grant keeping diamond pythons in 120x60x60 and thriving. You said that a 2.5m python (maximum size for a bredli like I mentioned) can’t be kept in a 120 x 60 x 60 (cm) enclosure. If so, then why have other keepers been doing it with good results? I’d like to see some real evidence suggesting that a 4 ft enclosure is too small for a snake that may not ever reach 8 ft in length. Or even better, I’d like to see evidence suggesting that there’s nothing wrong with putting a hatchling in a 4 ft. I understand your opinion on giving it a larger enclosure, certainly extra height can be beneficial, however large pythons have been thriving in 4 ft enclosures for years, so I wouldn't be too concerned about it.