CROC culling

[WombleHerp]

Anyone read the article in the courier mail, about the guy who wants to start culling crocs again???? that 'thier numbers are up and they are spreading'

load of bull...

all this time since they stopped culling years ago, the crocs have been small. It takes a croc at least 30-50 years to get to 'maneater' size. And because they have been small, all the small crocs have simply grown up, they have reached thier natural population size. So it appears that there are more then there were before.. however 'before' there were only smaller crocs, so it SEEMED like there were less... and now there are bigger crocs, they will keep the smaller ones in check therefore the cycle will continue now they are at thier proper rate.

this appalls me that he called Queenslanders 'croc huggers' in the article, and that he wants to start culling an already listed endangered species.. what a fool!!! :evil::?

the link: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,,25083589-3044,00.html :evil::evil:


Nat x

 

[ReptilianGuy]

i believe that there is an increase and that they are starting to spread back into populated areas as they are loosing teritory to the increase in thier population.... they have bounced back considerably well and maybe in the next 5 or ten years we will need todo something..
i've seen many young crocs of 2-3 mtrs take up residence in places i havent seen 1 in all my life..

even though thier increase really is our fault as our population has boomed tremendously over the past 30 years.. i love crocs and have a great respect for them having worked in the same environment with them for years and even taking a swim with 1 on a reef in the middle of the Torres Straights, yeah i'm a croc hugger "so he say's" won't agree entirely on his view, but yeah, controlled shooting of X amount could be an option in the near future. but if it comes in to play it should be highly regulated and very strict and only to a certain distance from any large population of people where they are a risk of attacking some stupid d!ck that goes for a swim or locals a fishing spot over X amount of days

better education of the issue to the public would be the best option of course...

 

[waruikazi]

Look i am totally for anything that is sustainable. Croc numbers have bounced back incredibly, 5 years ago you would never see them in darwin harbour and surrounding areas. Now they are quite common and are seen within a hundred meters of houses.

I'm not saying the numbers are a problem but i am saying there is nothing wrong with sustainable hunting of any species.

 

[kandi]

.they are in populated areas and we see them regularly even at our own public beaches basicially it is them or us. i prefer us especially when u have small children and u take them for a walk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[James..94]

They shouldn't be culled I will happily take home a juvinile one:lol:

But true they are every where now

 

[kandi]

you can only relocate so many to parks what is going to happen to the rest of them?

 

[mrmikk]

Most of you probably know my views on topics like this, but I believe we need to learn to share the planet rather than dominate it.

 

[WombleHerp]

i agree with mrmikk... there is no reason that we cannot just learn to live near them... and i think most of the stranded crocs weve seen are due to the floods...

and since WE are breeding so much and building more and more and more homes, WE are actually encroaching on THIER space.... food for thought


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[kandi]

yeah !! share the habitat we know how to behave do they???? is it ok for human life to be taken because we think it is safe but really it is not only because some croc has decides to relocate itself. go figure!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[kandi]

PS the crocs are not stranded they come with the flood and they also retreat with it , give them some credit they are creatures of habit and they have a brain

 

[Australis]

yeah !! share the habitat we know how to behave do they???? is it ok for human life to be taken because we think it is safe but really it is not only because some croc has decides to relocate itself. go figure!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop thinking its safe. :| .. and they might stop thinking of eating you

 

[Vassallo2008]

Hmm I Dont Want to See them die. But then again u dont want them to take over our rivers ect?

 

[ReptilianGuy]

crocs are purely instinctual... wont attack unless 99.9% sure of sucess.... and they also don't eat everyday.... they only need 2 feeds a year if that to survive healthily....

we are taking over thier habitat more and more every year and we will see more and more as we take over land and they reproduce.... they are needed for the balance of the eco system and to keep things in check.... our impact on the environment has had huge impact on where they can go and what they can keep in check as well as getting around while looking for food and territory without being seen...

for the floods, how do you think they get into billabongs 50- 100's of km's inland ect........ maybe in those areas there will be a slight drop in sightings after the floods???

anyway... i don't aprove of culling any reptile.... however, like i've said already, thier numbers clashing with ours will bring in the days of croc shooting as there will be more (idiots) life taken and many more sightings. it's been studied how far they travel and shown relocating doesn't work.... some venture back to the place of capture...
i do believe that when numbers reach a limit that is to high in urban areas there will need to be some kind of controll other than catch and relocate... but only in heavily occupied areas. and then a push for extreme controll on how many shot each year, what size, and what time of the year... and keep it heavily regulated... and only by a licenced shooter with the company of a park ranger or some1 with power and experience.....
to really fix the problem there needs to be a drop in our numbers but that wont ever happen... and there will always be crocs around for a long time to come

correct me if i'm off on some of the croc facts, but thats what i've been tought and learnt

 

[Hooglabah]

its never been animals that need culling its humans that need culling we are at way over sustainable levels unfortunatly being the dominant species on the planet we seem to think we have more right to be here i will never and have never shot a native animal and im doing my bit for the enviroment by not breeding. untill our pop goes down

 

[cris]

Look i am totally for anything that is sustainable. Croc numbers have bounced back incredibly, 5 years ago you would never see them in darwin harbour and surrounding areas. Now they are quite common and are seen within a hundred meters of houses.

I'm not saying the numbers are a problem but i am saying there is nothing wrong with sustainable hunting of any species.

I think introducing carefully controlled hunting and harvest would be a positive step towards conservation, but that will be hard to achieve when some think all crocs should be killed and others think all should be "saved". I would imagine their range will expand i the future. I couldnt even see a problem with letting ppl keep them in NSW and Qld.

Crocs are awesome animals, but they also taste good and IMO the most ethical way to obtain meat is from the wild. It is also quite possible to do sustainably, just a matter of doing the work and getting it to a publicly acceptable format. There is lots of ignorance and emotion involved these sorts of issues. Its only just recently that supermarkets started selling roo meat, some are even still against that I certainly wouldnt see more harm in eating a croc than a barra.

 

[CountryTriton]

I lived up in FNQ for 8yrs and spent a lot of time in bullock creek fishing. I'd go bait netting and fish off the bank. I use to tell the missus "if I'm not home by this time tomorrow don't rip up every croc looking for me, because I ain't coming back anyway."
I accept that if I go into a area where something could eat, bite, tag, or mame me it is my fault.
I drive a car 60km one way into the city each day for work and have a greater chance being mamed or killed by another driver than any croc, snake, spider, or fish yet I'm not allowed to cull them (other drivers).