Deflated eggs

[Rocky]

Hey every one, I have 2 clutches of Central Bearded dragon eggs incubating at the moment, I came home after being away for 2 days to find that one of the containers had a corner not pressed down correctly (Chinese containers) The eggs are deflated a bit, They are due to hatch around the 17th November.
My containers do not have holes in them, just wondering if they are gonners now that they are a tiny bit collapsed, and what i could to to help the eggs plump up, I heard adding more water to the vermiculite is best, but I am unsure.

Thanks

 

[Helikaon]

add some more moisture mate, hehe i used hatmanns solution on deflated slugs the other day and that brought them up within 15 mins.

 

[pepper]

spray them lightly with a bit of water not too much. I spray mine directly and have no probs.

 

[Rocky]

What is hatmanns solution? And how would i add more water, with an eye dropper around the edges or something??

 

[Helikaon]

What is hatmanns solution? And how would i add more water, with an eye dropper around the edges or something??

hartmana is a type of fluids that you might get in hospital if you had been vommiting or something similar. you should be fine is either sprayign them or jsut adding it to the vermiculite, you could jsut put a bit of water in the vermiculite around the sunken eggs.

 

[pepper]

Where do you get hartmana solution from? I would spray them as I find if you have too much water in the vermticulite you can have problems with mould.

 

[Rocky]

spray them lightly with a bit of water not too much. I spray mine directly and have no probs.

Wow, really? I was told they would drown and die if even a drop of water hit them!

 

[Helikaon]

lol i get it from work. meh mould will grow if its there, the amount of water shouldnt change that unless its dry that is, because it is the perfect environment for bacteria and fungi.

 

[Vixen]

I have heard to just place a moist paper towel over the top instead of spraying directly?

 

[Helikaon]

I have heard to just place a moist paper towel over the top instead of spraying directly?

heheh i tried a few of the above methods with some deflated slugs as an experiement. damp paper towle worked the best, but it wasnt untill i used the hartmanss that the eggs fully engorged so to speak, i then attempted to incubate them and they went bad within 24 hrs slugs were never meant to be i guess

 

[pepper]

No they don't drown. I spray direct and have no problems I find it the best way to do it. I know some other people like to just spray around the edges of the container. I have holes in my containers where as you don't. I haven't tried it with no holes.

 

[pepper]

Hey Helikaon where did you get the idea of using the hartmanss from? Can you get it from a chemist or is there something similar on the market.

 

[Helikaon]

Hey Helikaon where did you get the idea of using the hartmanss from? Can you get it from a chemist or is there something similar on the market.

well see hartmans is used in severly dehydrated patients because it has the characteristic in which, to not go into to much detail, body cells jsut suck it in basically. so if you sprey a laceration with hartmanns you would see the the wound swell. so i thought the same process would work with the eggs and it seemed to work very well. pluss it is sterile, so you arent introducing any chemicals or bacteria. if you were on good terms with your vet they may sell you some, but it would be pretty hard to get i would imagine. not at a chemist anywyas, but if you explained why you wanted to use it your vet might be nice and sell a bag to you.

 

[solar 17]

Hartmanns solution

Hartmanns solution is not as technical or hard to get as made out its generally sterile water plus generally 2% sodium chloride [salt] you don't need a perscription and can be bought at some produce stores and chemists.....but i don't believe you need this just warm water in a very fine [light] spray....cheers solar17

 

[Helikaon]

Hartmanns solution is not as technical or hard to get as made out its generally sterile water plus generally 2% sodium chloride [salt] you don't need a perscription and can be bought at some produce stores and chemists.....but i don't believe you need this just warm water in a very fine [light] spray....cheers solar17

nah, i think you are thinking of jsut the sterile sodium chloride bags. hartmans is a balanced electrolyte solution. hartmans containes sodium chloride, sodium lactate, pottasium chloride calcium chloride and water for injection.

 

[solar 17]

Hartmanns solution

Rubbish....you just listed 5-6 different solutions or electrolytes you can get for "different " applications ...ranging from dehydration to exhaustion to acidosis to alkinosis......keep it simple keep it understandable ....cheers solar 17

 

[caustichumor]

A good thing to do at the start of incubation is weigh your incubating container (with your eggs,medium and water) then you can weigh the container at intervals and see exactly how much weight you have lost, it is quite simple to then add the exact amount to bring it back to optimum conditions... I wouldn't worry too much, beleive it or not reptile eggs are quite hardy.
(and I would just stick with water)

 

[Helikaon]

Rubbish....you just listed 5-6 different solutions or electrolytes you can get for "different " applications ...ranging from dehydration to exhaustion to acidosis to alkinosis......keep it simple keep it understandable ....cheers solar 17

would you like me to take a picture of the bag for you, its right in front of me. and it worked very well in getting the eggs to "fill" back up for me. so yes i kept it simple.

 

[Deleted member 9890]

i have never had a problem at all with putting water onto the eggs if they are to dry and start shriveling up. i spray them or sometimes have even pored water on them. the eggs can put up with quite a bit. and i really dont think you need to bother with that other stuff just try the water.
good luck rocky

 

[Rocky]

Thanks guys, I will see how they are tomorrow, and spray them if need be.