Green Tree Python with respritaory inf

[Glidergirl]

My 18mnth green treen tried to shed about 4 days ago he only shed his head then stopped. He did this once before I rang the shop I got him from and he had told me to spray him a couple of time a day and after a couple of days he had still not shed so I took him to the shop and he helped get the remaining shed off.
tonight I got him out to soak him and noticed he was puffing his neck up when he breathed, and I can hear a crackling type noise. I know when normal pythons have this prob to put them in a warmer enclosure etc, but I dont know what to do with this little guy. Can someone please help me. I will take him to vet but I need to know what to do in the mean time.

 

[Fantazmic]

you need to give more information
how have you set up the enclosure temps etc....
pics if possible as well

 

[Glidergirl]

That is a waste of time right now I have 2 green trees the other has no probs The Shop I got them from deals a lot in green trees the cage is fine and temps are also fine.
What I need is can I bump temps up etc

 

[Erebos]

That's a bit rude I think! just because the shop told you to do somthing don't
Mean it's right. I have several gtps and some like it at 29, some will not leave the hot end at 32-33 and beg for more heat. so because the others are doing fine it dose not mean its fine or all your setups are perfect. you should never be like that when someone offers help or is trying, you should know your temps of hand without checking and if you don't I say it's pore management. Is there any remaing shed on his nose? Was it hissing at you handeling it? I'm by no means a expert but no one will be able to distinguish what the problem is? Or most importantly how to cure it? And next of all how to stop it from happening again. rudeness like that will not get you far! Hope he gets better!


Cheers Brenton

 

[Wrightpython]

That is a waste of time right now I have 2 green trees the other has no probs The Shop I got them from deals a lot in green trees the cage is fine and temps are also fine.
What I need is can I bump temps up etc

As long as you have a cooler area they can escape to you can bump temps up to any temp u like. In one of my inside cages thermo broke and temp in basking area was 50 when i got home but snakes were fine because they escaped to cool end. 2m cage. Good luck hope you get him to vet soon and hope all goes well

 

[vampstorso]

How the hell can you logically ask for help but not be willing to give details?!

Seems more like your reply is the actual waste of time!

Crackling would imply a bacterial infection, just like in human lungs. So yes, upping the mystery temperatures you have and keeping the enclosure dryer until your vet trip would help.

But hey, we don't know what you're doing now in comparison too that, with it being a waste of time and all.

Also, not having a problem doesn't mean everything is right by default, the animals can just be more resilient in the short term.

 

[Glidergirl]

I am not being rude but I dont want to waste my time with photos, The temperatures is right according to all the books I have read ppl who breed them etc. There is no shedding on nose I have already checked that. I was hoping instead of berating someone would give me advice such as increase temperature, decrease temp, seperate or seperate snakes, increase/decrease humidity.
Temp is around 28 basking light - under it atm is 31
humidity I spray first thing in morning and let it drop till the next morn, last couple of day humidty has been kept at about 90-95% because I have sprayed several times a day
Tank is a URS 45 x 45 x 60 cm tank
substrate kritter krumble (bark)
Snake last ate 2 days ago

 

[Wrightpython]

Bump temp up obviously youve never been to tropics. 29 is okay for small periods but bump up to 33 for a few days then back down then up to 31 then drop down to 25 for few days, try to emulate nature it changes temp everyday with thermos we have today temp change takes seconds. I check long range weather forecasts then change temps accordingly. I think this is why my outside snakes do better health wise over inside snakes although they do grow slower and eat less.

 

[Glidergirl]

Unfortunately my chondo book has been packed and is sitting in a shed an in murray bridge as we are in the process of moving. But I am sure I have read to high temps can kill them.

 

[vampstorso]

I agree photos are a pain, but the temps were necessary information

Fingers crossed for it

 

[Wrightpython]

Unfortunately my chondo book has been packed and is sitting in a shed an in murray bridge as we are in the process of moving. But I am sure I have read to high temps can kill them.

If you put them in oven you will kill them but if you change temps regularly and they have somewhere to go to cool then no matter what temp you have they will find there happy place. What do you think they do in wild all keel over when temps hit 35 there wouldnt be a snake left. Problem is now everybody reads and no body tests, when i was young there was bugger all books on individual species you made it up as you went and took notes and changed little bits until you found a happy medium. Problem with only reading it is now you cant be sure however had you practical experience youd know answers and likely outcomes.
Am i reading it right that you have them together in same enclosure if yes then remove sick animal before it passes a possible infection to healthy animal. When you go to vet take both animals plus any others you may have regardless of species as some infections are airborne and easily passed on.

 

[JAS101]

That is a waste of time right now I have 2 green trees the other has no probs The Shop I got them from deals a lot in green trees the cage is fine and temps are also fine.
What I need is can I bump temps up etc

then go ask them , thus it wont be a waste of time waiting for an answer on here

 

[Glidergirl]

How is this being helpful maybe someone who is not being such *** can offer some useful advice

 

[reptileKev81]

I was hoping instead of berating someone would give me advice such as increase temperature, decrease temp, seperate or seperate snakes, increase/decrease humidity.

Telling someone to just increase their temps without knowing what the current situation its in is irresponsible, which is probably why you didn't get the answer you wanted.
And you need to included all relevant details when asking for help, or problems are impossible to diagnose.

And your post was rude IMO.

Hope your snake gets better

[./EndRant]

 

[D3pro]

A lot of keepers make the mistake of thinking a snake has RI just because it make a little noise when it breathes.
RI usually involves bubbles from their nose and mouth.

If he's not shedding properly you might have to soak him and then gently assist the python in his shed. Bad sheds in greens can be a sign of low humidity.

Another thing, soaking a snake can sometimes drive water down their nasal and throat canals which causes them to puff their throat (which is probably full of water).
Or if he is aggressive it can also make them puff their necks.

I would put him back in his enclosure, and see how it is by tomorrow.
Mistake number one is freaking out.

 

[Glidergirl]

There are no bubbles from nose or mouth it was when i checked the water temp (soaking water) I notice the breathing (puffing the throat up)
my other GTP has never had any issues shedding and I have only had this one a couple of months, 3 sheds including this one and it has only had 1 good one, when I spray in morning humidity normally goes up to 70 - 80%.

Qoute: Mistake number one is freaking out

Yep that's exactly what I have done, calming down a little now but still a tad worried