Well, DP we will be moving out of our shed/flat, next door to Dave's Mums house(we are buying the property), when she gets her pensioner unit in town. We should have a lot more room then, for cabinets etc. And when we get these rotten,dripping nipple waterers sorted(new ones coming), the RR should be fairly self sufficient hopefully, and we will have a lot more time to get aquainted with a new addition to the family(our first snake). Cheers Cheryl. PS Fuscus, I will let you get the Snappy One out first before I hold it. LOL!!!!