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HELP!! Baby beardied broken/dislocated front limb

Hi, my 8wk old baby has done something to her front left limb :-( in the last couple of hours. She doesn't seen to be able to bend it and limps along with it outstretched behind her. Theres no grip in the hand or any swelling ir discolouration at the joints and while I was bathing her I could move it around and she didn't care. I would really appreciate some advice, has anyone seen this before and can give some guidance that would be wonderful because i'm quite worried about her :(
I've searched the posts but can't find what i'm looking for. She's normally perfectly healthy, UV 5.0 in cage with log leading up to, heat lamp keeps cold end 26 n hot 35ish, fake grass. Was housed with sisters that have in the past bullied her. we're going to the vet tomorrow but what i'm really after is someone who had similar issues n their dragon recovered well.
 

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should be fine, as long as there's no swelling in the joints it should heal ok. up the calcium to 4-5 days a week, make sure it can get close to the uv globe and it should heal well. i've had it happen to a couple of my hatchies . give me a call if your worried , also the vet might be able to give you some liquid calcium, that stuff is great
 
Thank you!! I'm still going to the vet, but tis awesome to hear this has happened to someone else n it heals up well, a wk or 2 ago she had a few issues with her half sister whom she is housed with n I was considering separating her but didn't n was now kicking myself!! I actually feed my juvis multi vitamin powder (has about 1/3 calcium) pretty much every feeding but i'll see if I can get the extra liquid calcium, btw which vet do you go to? I'm going to dr. needham in glenside?
 
yeah i went to glenside a few years ago, the diagnosis was "wait here while i google these symptoms" , pretty much told the vet myself what was wrong as i had already googled it myself,lol. they may have gotten better tho. there is a reptile vet at the morphett vale clinic near the emu hotel. again he relies heavilly on google

it happens with younguns growing up, i had to seperate a couple of my holdbacks this season for the same reason. get a little aggressive with each other, then one ends up limping away.

hows katy's(? did i remember right??) little one going ?
 
Sigh, figured as much about the vet, but you never know? Someone also recommended a vet in paralowie heard anything?
And yes! You remembered it right! katy's "fizgig" is doing really well. She absolutely adores him, in 2wks she's picking up a custom 12250cm x 52cm x 52cm tank with a hood and cabinet custom from a cabinet maker. She hovers over him, she called me concerned when he was puffing out his beard to poop :) and he is looking quite lovely, good quality beardy. i'll get her to send you a nice pic, shes got enough :)
 
my mates hatchi ate a fly and it has bad spinal problems and couldn't move then it could then one days its arms wouldn't move, we had written him off and were gona get him euthanized, then 4 days later he was perfect, i think alot of the problems is because there insides and body is so soft nerves can be affected really easily with bites from there siblings, food and falls, but go to the vet bit dont let him give it the chop unless its still dead in a week
 
Wow! Thanks heaps for that, I would be
Devastated if that was the prognosis, I've isolated her anyway and even after the vet i'll just leave her on her own and ho pe for the best :-( but i'm not giving up on her yet!!
 
I hope she recovers and is fine, but aren't bearded dragons meant to have 10.0 UVB?
i use 5.0 for my beardies, i found 10.0 was too much for my hatchling, and some local breeders suggested 5.0 as they have had trouble with skin cancers in the past. they've been doing it alot longer than me
 
Hi all! Sorry about the delay, been busy and I wanted to take the time to respond properly. So we went to the Paralowie Veterinary Surgery and saw Dr. Delport Christo was absolutely amazing! For starters he was booked all day but said he would see Cherry as soon as we could get there, took about an hour drive :).
And he gave me excellent advice which I wrote down,
Disclaimer: I would like to state that these comments reflect my personnel experiences and opinions in this particular case, not those of Dr. Christos and the Paralowie Veterinary Surgery.
So after examination:
Cherry could have either a fracture or a bite from her sisters. Since the enclosure is fairly safe we went with the bite from her dominant sister senario. What Roxy did was squeeze Cherry’s arm so firmly as to cause nerve damage L Because she is so little though he said that the bones wouldn’t have properly formed and her limbs would be mostly filled with cartilage (making an x-ray pointless) and so her leg had a better chance of recovering fully.
The recommendation was to of course separate her in to a smaller enclosure 1ft by .5ft which would limit her ability to run, provide easy climbs to the heat and UV lamps, and feed her baby crickets that had been refrigerated to slow their movement. As well as daily hydrotherapy baths J basically I use a teeny plastic container and give her warm baths carefully moving the arm in the water. And whenever I walk past her tank and see her sitting with the leg in an awkward position (generally stretched out behind her) I reach in and carefully move it forward.
Warning signs:
The problem with nerve damage is that it can either heal, or the nerve and affected tissue can die and spread L If this were to happen the limb would begin to turn black and the skin would harden beginning at the toes and working towards the body. If the affected area still has living, normal coloured skin then there is the chance the nerve and tissue death has been localised and while the arm will not be fully useable, it is not life threatening. But if the affected area is a solid black and the area is increasing towards the body the arm would need to be amputated.
Another problem is if, when biting Cherry, Roxy had broken the skin. This would cause an infection at the bite site which would be accompanied with swelling, puss and a purple discolouration. Because Cherry is so small her tiny kidneys would not be able to handle the antibiotics so while he didn’t say euthanize, twas the elephant in the room.
Thankfully in the last 3 days Cherry’s arm hasn’t shown any of the warning signs and the number of times a day I need to point her arm forward is reducing. Her movement is very much limited so when I walk past I tend to move her J if she’s been under the heat lamp a while, I move her to the UV and vice versa. When eating crickets she sort of lunges forward and face plants the floor, so while the arm is pointing the right direction, she’s obviously not using it much.
I need to keep a close watch until Saturday when she will hopefully be out of danger, and if any of the warning signs occur I need to contact Dr. Christo immediately and take her in for either amputation or...
So! There you go, I’ve typed this to keep for my own records in case this ever happens again and I hope other users of this site will find it useful.
I cannot recommend Dr. Christo and the nurses at Paralowie Veterinary Surgery highly enough, a very caring and professional practise that gave me faith I was putting Cherry into capable hands.
Thank so you very much!

p.s I've also known ppl to have melanomas on their reptiles from UV 10, if 5 will do the job, why risk it?
 
told ya it was the nerve damage, exactly same thing happened to my mate, just watch out when ya separate it into the new tank that the crickets don't start eating the bite wound because they will and make it worse, btw after the game my mates juvis arm the chop he was still fine and going around fine
 
Yeah, you totally picked it mate! I do my best to remove all the baby crickets (so hard to do) but she has a huge appetite and generally face plants what ever is left over. Thankfully the bite didn't pierce the skin so I don't have to worry too much about the infection side, mainly the dead skin thing. Thanks for your concern and advice :)
 
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