snakemad3
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hi all i am just wondering if this is normal or if its a sign of a snake peed off?:x i will be getting my complete care of carpet python book tomorrow so will be glued to that for a fair few weeks lol.
He doesn't seem to hiss at me when hes in his enclosure, just when i had him out in the shop a little. I know hes healthy as can be as first day i got him i took him to the vets to get him checked out and he said hes i peak condition. Hes about 5 foot max and just under 2.5 kilo. I am just worried if this would of had have a negative effect on him as being handled by a vet? :|he has very impressive teeth lol and relay don't want them sticking in me... i got my squirty bottle of Listerine if he does and don't let go. i have heard this is unharmful to them and if anyone else has to use it or uses something else? i heard some people use vodka.
Also what is the best way to NOT get bittern and best ways to avoid this? i have a snake hook to hand also (and know about picking up from underneath so as to not think i'm a predator or going to try and eat him lol) and if he did bite would it just be a strike with mouth open/shut and just let go or hang on? as when i was feeding him after he did struck at the top of the feeding tub i popted him in. That unnerved me a little.:shock: then i thought he could still be hungry. i gave him a medium rat but want i to give him a small rabbit now and then along with some chicks as treats. I don't want him to feel threatened or scared enough to feel he has to bit me, i don't want to have to check for broken teeth ect an take him to the vet.. i would if i had to... i would rather just avoid this sito altogether. i heard handling them and carrying out their daily routines is best in day an feeding is at night. as that is what i have been doing since i got him.
I'v had him just under 2 weeks now in quarantine and just been letting him get used to his new home and distress. i have red a few books on cp's but long term keeper knowledge is always second to none and it's good to ask more experienced keepers their views and ideas.:lol:
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I failed to mention i have had snakes/Lizards more on than off for prob 12+ years and never feared a bite, quite the opposite and didn't phase me. Its his teeth are a lot bigger that any other snake iv had, although my mam keeps boas, placid puppy's lol, get a bit to big for me though. I guess i feel intimidated by his teeth. I keep telling myself all he can do is bite. and if i were a snake and scared i would prob bite. lol. i try to put myself in there scales lol.
I used to breed garters some years ago. I held him loads in the shop and he was fine. he isn't my first snake but my 1st carpet (an i was thinking at times maybe something smaller, but smaller would get bigger anyway, an i fell in love with him. he was so placid and lovely an active) and i know its not if but when i get bitten. I had started hook training properly like yesterday (also trying to pop him back in his quarantine enclosure after feeding last week).
I was cleaning his quarantine with him in it as he wouldn't come out so i decided to clean around him, till i moved the tube he was in. its like one of the vent tubes that hangs out windows but a bit narrower. he was hissing like mad when i moved him in his tube understandably, hides usually don't get moved with snakes in there... i am thinking maybe a lift of slate hide will prob be a better move. i stupidly put his fresh newspaper in his feeding tub that i stupidly forgot to clean out (there was no squished rat bits anywhere) 1st time for everything, and i'm sure he could smell the rat on it, he started hunting, an i was all if i hold him now ad def get bitten. so i let him be. I will feed him today or tomorrow and change him again on weekend
About the Listerine i have not used it yet as when i heard about it i was thinking it would prob hurt more than the bite being sprayed with Listerine. so just waft the smell towards him.
About hooking him out i did try that but then he was like nope gonna turn round and wedge myself in this tube an he refused to come out. i don't want to stress him. and that's why i am asking about handling techinks as i don't want to hurt or pee him off.
I think once i got bitten i wont be as bad... hopefully. i think its just the initial fear of getting bitten that worries me.
That's good to know that is normal but he relay seems grumpy and doesn't want to be disturbed. i know he is prob stressed so i bought some arkvits ect for him to try and chill him out a bit it seems to have helped but hes just very hissy. and i think when he struck at the lid that worried me a bit. got me thinking if he was still hungry or not. He ate a fat white Medium rat.
whats the most damage that a bite can do? aka, artery's, and nerve damage? an i seem to think if he did a feeding response bite that he may try to eat my hand/arm. i dunno where i have got this from just overactive imagination lol.
he hisses a little when i was holding him in the shop, expelling air but now he hisses and puffs up. i'm hoping hes just tank defensive and not nasty? as i dint know why the change of temperament all of a sudden? stress wouldn't help i know.
He doesn't seem to hiss at me when hes in his enclosure, just when i had him out in the shop a little. I know hes healthy as can be as first day i got him i took him to the vets to get him checked out and he said hes i peak condition. Hes about 5 foot max and just under 2.5 kilo. I am just worried if this would of had have a negative effect on him as being handled by a vet? :|he has very impressive teeth lol and relay don't want them sticking in me... i got my squirty bottle of Listerine if he does and don't let go. i have heard this is unharmful to them and if anyone else has to use it or uses something else? i heard some people use vodka.
Also what is the best way to NOT get bittern and best ways to avoid this? i have a snake hook to hand also (and know about picking up from underneath so as to not think i'm a predator or going to try and eat him lol) and if he did bite would it just be a strike with mouth open/shut and just let go or hang on? as when i was feeding him after he did struck at the top of the feeding tub i popted him in. That unnerved me a little.:shock: then i thought he could still be hungry. i gave him a medium rat but want i to give him a small rabbit now and then along with some chicks as treats. I don't want him to feel threatened or scared enough to feel he has to bit me, i don't want to have to check for broken teeth ect an take him to the vet.. i would if i had to... i would rather just avoid this sito altogether. i heard handling them and carrying out their daily routines is best in day an feeding is at night. as that is what i have been doing since i got him.
I'v had him just under 2 weeks now in quarantine and just been letting him get used to his new home and distress. i have red a few books on cp's but long term keeper knowledge is always second to none and it's good to ask more experienced keepers their views and ideas.:lol:
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I failed to mention i have had snakes/Lizards more on than off for prob 12+ years and never feared a bite, quite the opposite and didn't phase me. Its his teeth are a lot bigger that any other snake iv had, although my mam keeps boas, placid puppy's lol, get a bit to big for me though. I guess i feel intimidated by his teeth. I keep telling myself all he can do is bite. and if i were a snake and scared i would prob bite. lol. i try to put myself in there scales lol.
I used to breed garters some years ago. I held him loads in the shop and he was fine. he isn't my first snake but my 1st carpet (an i was thinking at times maybe something smaller, but smaller would get bigger anyway, an i fell in love with him. he was so placid and lovely an active) and i know its not if but when i get bitten. I had started hook training properly like yesterday (also trying to pop him back in his quarantine enclosure after feeding last week).
I was cleaning his quarantine with him in it as he wouldn't come out so i decided to clean around him, till i moved the tube he was in. its like one of the vent tubes that hangs out windows but a bit narrower. he was hissing like mad when i moved him in his tube understandably, hides usually don't get moved with snakes in there... i am thinking maybe a lift of slate hide will prob be a better move. i stupidly put his fresh newspaper in his feeding tub that i stupidly forgot to clean out (there was no squished rat bits anywhere) 1st time for everything, and i'm sure he could smell the rat on it, he started hunting, an i was all if i hold him now ad def get bitten. so i let him be. I will feed him today or tomorrow and change him again on weekend
About the Listerine i have not used it yet as when i heard about it i was thinking it would prob hurt more than the bite being sprayed with Listerine. so just waft the smell towards him.
About hooking him out i did try that but then he was like nope gonna turn round and wedge myself in this tube an he refused to come out. i don't want to stress him. and that's why i am asking about handling techinks as i don't want to hurt or pee him off.
I think once i got bitten i wont be as bad... hopefully. i think its just the initial fear of getting bitten that worries me.
That's good to know that is normal but he relay seems grumpy and doesn't want to be disturbed. i know he is prob stressed so i bought some arkvits ect for him to try and chill him out a bit it seems to have helped but hes just very hissy. and i think when he struck at the lid that worried me a bit. got me thinking if he was still hungry or not. He ate a fat white Medium rat.
whats the most damage that a bite can do? aka, artery's, and nerve damage? an i seem to think if he did a feeding response bite that he may try to eat my hand/arm. i dunno where i have got this from just overactive imagination lol.
he hisses a little when i was holding him in the shop, expelling air but now he hisses and puffs up. i'm hoping hes just tank defensive and not nasty? as i dint know why the change of temperament all of a sudden? stress wouldn't help i know.