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Shacks

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I ran over this snake on the road in the early hours today, didn't see it till the last second. Looking in a book I have here it looks like a Tipan, but the markings don't match what the book has.

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A larger version is here > http://glenschackier.com/General-Ph...-Dam-20101030-GS33921/1069525690_SQ4Pc-XL.jpg
 
Keelback for sure.

Taipan if your guide dog thinks so.
 
Why is it when people want to ID a snake on here (no offence Shacks) its 90% a keelback.

Not that I should winge because I needed some hatchie keelbacks confirmed a few months back. (what are they, flavour of the month or something?)
 
APS really needs to implement some rules with these "What snake is that" threads, perhaps using a dedicated forum with a proforma like the for sale section.
People need to state the reason for their identification attempts, this is to avoid the apperance of "arm-chair" experts or just griefers.
The poster should endeavour to include clear, close up photos of head, tail and mid section ( I understand that this is not always possible with live animals ). If not supplied the respondents should use a image software package to show ID points. The poster should also indicate location and the habitat type (eg swamp, desert or frozen lake )

In the spirit of the above I submit the following:

Tentative ID : Keelback ( Tropidonophis mairii )
ID Point : Colour pattern within expected parameters of species, however this species is highly variable and other species can match this pattern
ID Point : location of poster is within the species range.
ID Point : loreal scale appears to be present ( see kb1_loreal.jpg ). This indicates it is a colubrid snake
ID Point : divided subcaudal scales ( see kb1_SubCaudal.jpg ) This indicates it is NOT the similar rough-scaled snake
ID Point : Mid body scale count - Keelbacks have a scale count of around 15. kb1_ScaleCount.jpg shows half the mid body and there are 7 scales visible. Again an indicator of a colubrid and is definitely not a python or elapid.
 

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