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I think this is reptile related enough to put here, didn't seem to go in just chit chat.
Occasionally I get pricelists emailed to me from Africa. . I would never try to
buy from an unsolicited African pricelist, there is little to no chance you would get
anything, they are almost always a ripoff. The prices on the lists are generally
"too good to be true", this one was was pretty high. Also they say a scorpion is
Bufo alvarius -- the rare Colorado River Toad scorpion?
Usually I just delete them, this time I replied to. Today the sender sent the message
that's second down. I think it's very funny!
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Reptiles Pricelist
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:03:16 +0000
Are you mad?
SAVANNAH MONITOR LIZARD --- VARANUS ALBIGULARIS
@ 30.00$
I can buy these for 3@ 30 RETAIL here in the U.S.
Don't send me any more of your rubbish lists!!
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Shabani Issa ([email protected])
Sent: Tue 1/27/09 4:36 PM
To:
andy via ([email protected])


Thank you but remember this is bussines you was never any important to send
me shirt words like that, The right way is to tell me your buying prices only.
OK I THINK YOU`R PRIGNANT. t
ake care with your husband.

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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:53:43 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Reptiles Pricelist
To: [email protected]

Dear Sir,
[FONT=lucida console, sans-serif]Happy New Year 2009.[/FONT]

Here is our Reptiles, amphibians pricelist that we able to supply you,



CITES CHALEMELEONS:
GIANT ONE HORNED CHAMELEON --- CHAMAELEO MELLERI @ 25.00$

FLAP NECKED CHAMELEON --- CHAMAELEO DELEPIS @ 8.00$

DESERT SIDE STRIPED --- CHAMAELEO BITAENIATUS @ 7.00$

EAST AFRICAN SPINY-TAILED LIZARD --- CORDYLUS TROPIDOSTERNUM @ 5.00$

FISCHER TWO HORN CHAMELEON --- BRADYPODION FISCHERI
@ 8.00$

GRACEFUL CHAMELLEON --- CHMAELEO GRACILIS @ 7.00$


GREEN DAY GECKO --- PHELSUMA DUBIA @ 5.00$

KENYA PIGMY CHAMELEON --- RHAMPHOLEON KERSTENII @ 5.00$

NILE MONITOR LIZARD --- VARANUS NILOTICUS @ 30.00$

RWENZORI SIDE STRIPPED --- CHAMAELEO RUDIS @ 12.00$

SAVANNAH MONITOR LIZARD --- VARANUS ALBIGULARIS
@ 30.00$

TAVETA TWO HORNED --- BRADYPODION TAVETANUM @ 8.00$


TORTOISE:

Pancake - Malaco Chersestornier = usd $ 70.00
Leopards- Gechelone pardalis = usd $ 65.00


AMPHIBIANS

ARGUS REED FROG ---HYPEROLIUS ARGUS @2.00$
MARBLED REED FROG --- HYPEROLIUS MARMORATUS @2.00$
PARKER'S REED FROG --- HYPEROLIUS PARKERI @2.00$
VARIABLE MONTANE REED FROG --- HYPEROLIUS PICTUS @2.00$
GOLDEN SEDGE FROG --- HYPEROLIUS PUNCTICULATUS @2.00$
TINKER TREE FROG --- HYPEROLIUS TUBERILINGUS @2.00$
VIRIDIFLAVIAN REED FROG --- HYPEROLIUS VIRIDIFLAVUS@ 2.00$
FORNASINI'SLEAF FOLDING FROG --- AFRIAXALUS FORNASINII @2.00$
PYGMY LEAF FOLDING FROG --- AFRIAXALUS PYGMAEUS @2.00$
RED-LEGGED KASSINA --- KASSINA MACULATA @2.00$
BUBBLING KASSINA --- KASSINA SENEGALENSIS @2.00$
GREY FOARM-NEST TREE FROG --- CHIROMANTIS XERAMPHLINA @2.00$
PFEFFER'S LEPTOPELTIS --- LEPTOPELIS ARGENTEUS @2.00$
BOCAGE'S BURROWING FLOG --- LEPTOPELIS BOCAGII @2.50$
HILDEBRANDT'S BURROWING FLOG --- HILDEBRANDTIA ORNATA @2.00$
AFRICAN BULL FROG --- PYXICEPHALUS ADSPERENS @4.00 $
DUSKY-THROATED RANA --- RANA GALAMENSIS @2.00$
GOLDEN-BACKED FROG --- RANA GALAMENSIS @2.00$
GROOVE-CROWNED BULLFROG --- RANA OCCIPITALIS @2.00$
LONG-TOED FROG --- STRONGYLOPUS FASCIATUS @2.00$
TREMOLO SAND FROG --- TOMOPTERNA CRYPTOTIS @2.00$
TUBERCULATE SAND FROG --- TOMOPTTUBERCULOSA @2.00$
JUMPING FROGS --- PTYCHADENA SPP. @2.00$
MOTTLED SHOVEL --- NOSED FROG =HEMISUS MARMORATUM
@2.00$
RED-BANDED FROG --- PHRYNOMERUS BIFASCIATUS @2.50$

NONE POISONOUS SNAKES:
AFRICAN ROCK --- PYTHON PYTHON SEBAE @80.00$
BLIND SNAKES --- TYPHLOPS SCHELEGELII @10.00$
COMMON EGG EATER --- SNAKE D. SCABRA @25.00$
EASTERN SCHLEGL'S BLIND SNAKE --- TYPHLOPS SCHELEGELII
@10.00$
GREEN SNAKES --- PHILOTHAMNUS SSP @10.00$
HOUSE SNAKE --- BOAEDOM FULIGNOSUS @10.00$



POISONOUS SNAKES:

Atheris hispida US$ 50.00
Atheris nitschei US$ 50.00
Atheris squamiger US$ 50
Bitis nasicornis US$ 50.00
Dendroaspis jamesoni kaimosaeUS$ 70.00
Dendroaspis jamesoni jamesoniUS$ 80.00


BLACK MAMBA --- DENDROASPIS POLYLEPIS @70.00$
BLACK NECKED SPITTING COBRA --- N.NIGROCOLIS @50.00$
BOOMSLANG --- DISPHOLIDUS TYPUS @40.00$
BUSH VIPER --- CERATHOPHORUS ATHERIS @50.00$
EGYPTIAN COBRA --- NAJA HAJE HAJE @50.00$
FOREST COBRA --- NAJA MELANOLEUCA @45.00$
GABOON VIPER --- BITIS GABONICA @30.00$
GREEN MAMBA --- DENDROASPIS ANGUSTICEPS @60.00$
NIGHT ADDER --- CAUSUS SPP @40.00$
PUFF ADDER --- BITIS ARIENTARIS @40.00$
RED SPITTING COBRA --- NAJA PALLIDA @80.00$

LIZARDS & GECKOS:
[FONT=tahoma, new york, times, serif]LYGODUCTYLUS WILLIAMSII @ 50.00 per hd.
[/FONT]
[FONT=tahoma, new york, times, serif]ANGULATED DWARF GECKO @2.50$
BIBRON THICK TOED GECKO --- PACHYDACTYLUS BIBRONII
@2.00$
BLACK NECKED TREE-AGAMA --- STELLIO ATRCOLIS @3.50$
BLACK LINED PLATED-LIZARD --- GERRHOSAURUS NIGROLINEATUS @5.00$
BLUE TAIL SKINK --- MABUYA QUINQUETAENIATA @2.00$
BOULENGERS SCRUB LIZARD --- NUCRAS BOULENGERI @3.50$
CAPE DWARF GECKO --- LYDACTYLUS CAPENSIS @2.00$
CLAWED GECKO --- HOLODACTYLUS AFRICANUS @5.00$
COMMON HOUSE GECKO --- HEMIDACTYLUS MABOUIA @2.00$
COMMON STRIPED SKINK --- MABUYA STRIATA @2.00$
DWARF GROUND AGAMA --- AGAMA ACUELETA @2.00$
EASTERN TROPICAL SPINY-AGAMA --- AGAMA ACULEATA @3.00$
EASTERN SERRATE-TOED TREE-LIZARD --- HOLASPIS GUENTHERI @3.00$
FOREST GECKO --- CHEMASPIS AFRICANA @2.50$
GREATER PLATED LIZARD --- GERRHOSAURUS MAJOR @5.00$
JACKSON'S FOREST LIZARD --- ADOLFUS JACKSONII @3.00$
LONG TAIL SAND LIZARD @2.00$
LONG-TAILED SKINK --- MABUYA PLANIFRONS @2.00$
[/FONT]
[FONT=tahoma, new york, times, serif]MWANZA ROCK AGAMA --- AGAMA MWANZAE @3.00$
RED-HEADED ROCK-AGAMA --- AGAMA AGAMA @2.00$
SPECKLE-LIPPED SKINK --- MABUYA MACULABRIS
TEITA LIMBLESS SKINK --- ACONTIAS PERCIVALI @3.50$
TETE THICK-TOED GECKO --- PACHIYDACTYLUS TETENSIS
@4.00$
VARIABLE SKINK --- MABUYA VARIA @2.00$
YELLOW-HEADED DWARF GECKO --- LYGODACTYLUS
LUTEOPICTURATUS @2.00$
YELLOW THROATED LIZARD --- GERRHOSAURUS FLAVIGULARIS @3.50$
[/FONT]


Centipedes:
Garden centipede (Lithobius forticatus) @2.00$
Centipede (Necrophloeophagus flavus) @2.00$
Giant peruvian (Scolopendra gigantea) @3.00$
Home centipede (Scutigera coleoptrata) @2.00$
Flat centipede @3.00$
Red headed centipede (Scolopendridae family) @2.00$
Flag tail centipede @2.00$
Yellow legged centipede @2.00$
Assorted centipede @2.00$

Millipedes:
Black giant @2.00$
Black millipedes @2.00$
Chocolate legged @2.00$
Fire millipedes @2.00$
Flat millipede @2.00$
Green body millipede @2.00$
Pink body @2.00$
Pinky legged @2.00$
Red body @2.00$
Red-legged millipedes @2.00$
Small black @2.00$
Small yellow stripped @2.00$
Tanzania billbugs @2.00$
White legged @2.00$
Yellow-legged millipede @2.00$

Grass Hoppers:
Chorthippus spp @2.00$
Common large grasshopper=Anthracis ruficornis @2.00$
Dictyphorus spumans @ usd $ 3.00
Lubber grasshopper =Brachystola magna @2.00$
Melanoplus bivittatus @2.00$
Phymateus leprosus @2.00$
Phymateus morbillosus @2.00$
Short horned G.Hopper =Acrida bicolor @2.00$
Short horned G.Hopper =Acrida spp @2.00$
Zonocerus elegans @2.00$

Mantids:
African flower mantis=Pseudocreobroter spp @2.00$
African giant mantis @2.00$
African mantis=Sphodromantis lineola @2.00$
African twig mantis= Popa spurca @2.00$
Parasphendale affinis @2.00$
Sphofromantis centralis @2.00$

Idolomantids Diabolica @ 20.00$

Scorpions:
African black scorpion-Pandinus africanus @2.00$
Assorted scorpions @2.00$
Common earwig-Farticular auricularia @2.00$
East African Spitting scorpion @2.00$
Emperor scorpion-Pandinus imperator @2.00$
Flat back scorpion-Centruroides gracilis @2.00$
Flat Rock scorpion-Hedogenes troglodytes @2.00$
Giant black scorpion-Heterometrus longimanus @2.00$
Hotenttotta trilineatus @2.00$
Red claw scorpion-Pandinus cavimanus @2.00$
Tail less whip scorpion @2.00$

Tanzania spitting scorpion-Parabuthus liosoma @ 5.00$
Water scorpion @2.00$
Yellow banded flat rock- Bufoalvarius @2.00$


Spiders:
African giant baboon spider. Hysterocrates spp @ 10.00$
Black tarantula Plerinochilus spp @ 3.00$
Black trapdoor spider Stassimopus roberti @ 3.00$
Daddy long leg Pholcus phalangioides @ 2.50$
Garden spider araneus spp @2.50$
Grey baboon spider selonocosmia spp @ 3.00$
Hairy legged spider Stromatopelma calceata @3.00$
House spider amaurobius similis @3.00$
Kilimanjaro spider Plerinochilus weidenmanni @ 3.00$
Orange baboon spider selonocosmia javanensis @3.00$
Red devil spider @3.00$
Red trapdoor spider Gorgyrella spp @3.00$
Water spider oryronetidae family @3.00$



Awaiting your order,

SHABANI ISSA HAJI.
SOUTH & COAST ANIMAL TRADE:
Ubungo Street,
P.O BOX 407.
Mob +255 777 967502.
Dar-es Salaam.



TANZANIA EAST AFRICA:
[FONT=tahoma, new york, times, serif][email protected][/FONT]
 
Haha I think your prignant???
I cant believe those prices though, can you actually buy animals from Africa and import them into the USA?
 
No.. you send them money and postage costs, they send you nothing. You lose.
 
No.. you send them money and postage costs, they send you nothing. You lose.

Yeah I know thats the deal in this case as it is unsolicited. What I meant was can americans buy animals from overseas if they know exactly where the animal is coming from, say a friend in africa is selling a rock python and they buy it can they import it into the USA no worries?
 
say a friend in africa is selling a rock python and they buy it can they import it into the USA no worries?

Are you serious? I would be mighty worried if I knew that someone was sending me a rock python! :lol::lol::lol:
Yes individuals can import reptiles legally, so send me all the death adders you can find.
kidding kidding kidding kidding kidding kidding kidding kidding kidding kidding kidding kidding
To import you need to have a permit. There isn't any reptile knowledge involved in getting one.
More of a criminal background check and paying the fee. Then the animals have to come to
a airport with a Fish & Wildlife officer. There aren't that many like that, only three on the east coast
I believe.
 
hmmmmmm wonder if i could get an african rock python and just say its a large coastal hehehehe

and dam i wish we could get those rare daddy long leg spiders into the country hmmmmm lol
 
Are you serious? I would be mighty worried if I knew that someone was sending me a rock python! :lol::lol::lol:
Yes individuals can import reptiles legally, so send me all the death adders you can find.
kidding kidding kidding kidding kidding kidding kidding kidding kidding kidding kidding kidding
To import you need to have a permit. There isn't any reptile knowledge involved in getting one.
More of a criminal background check and paying the fee. Then the animals have to come to
a airport with a Fish & Wildlife officer. There aren't that many like that, only three on the east coast
I believe.

Was just an example and the first thing that came to mind.
Thanks for answering my question.
 
re Reptile

Good to deal with the old shibani,i recommend him for his quality spitting cobras and boomslangs,hes my cousin :)
 
Looks like a totally legitimate price list from Tanzania to me.

Please understand that many countries around the world freely trade in wildlife under regulation.

Because the persons English is not the best, due it NOT being his native tounge, is that reason to ridicule him ??? How is your Swahili ???

Maybe he was offended by the reply email which is quite understandable. It was not written in a clear professional manner. The Tanzanian sender sent it possibly in the hopes of reaching customers, if one is not interested a kindly reply on no interest is all that is needed.

Maybe the person replying is confusing Varanus albigularis with Varanus exanthematicus in regards to retail pricing n the USA ???

There are always two sides to a coin !!!!
 
The yahoo address may sound strange to you, but the reality is that the vast majority of Africans only have access to the net via cyber cafes, so a yahoo address is actually the norm :)
 
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