Hi all, just wondering what it means when my gtp just threw up a black fluid (possibly bile) after 2 days of eating a rat? snake looked akward throwing it up but looks better now. Would it be a bad rat? And would I expect the whole rat to follow shortly. Temps are good too by the way. Keeping a close eye on this one. By the way a vet is not really an option as snakes are not his forte to say the least. cheers in advance.
throwing up Liquid.
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buffcoat
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This happened to one of Vince's boas. He took it to the vet. It had an ulcer. Vet prescribed meds for it.
Sounds like a vet trip.
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Sounds like a vet trip.
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All right guys, starting to freak out a bit now. Just tried calling the vets again and they said not sure what they could do except for me to give Taronga a call (which I did), no help from them as their hospital staff are not working and will not be back until tomorrow. Snake seems okay for about half an hour, then opens mouth and hangs upside down and seems to want to throw up but cannot.
Anybody I could call to get some assistance would be grateful. Anything that the vet could give to assist it regurging?
Thanks guys.
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Called Australia Zoo hospital and they are not permitted to give any advice over the phone. ***.
Anybody I could call to get some assistance would be grateful. Anything that the vet could give to assist it regurging?
Thanks guys.
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Called Australia Zoo hospital and they are not permitted to give any advice over the phone. ***.
Find a vet that deals with snakes?
Coastal_Girl
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where are you? i know a couple of vets in central qld that might be able to give you advice over the phone
JrFear
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your location could help us point you to some one who could help
longqi
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If it could be the rat it is probably past the coil where GTP is curled up
That will not help it throw it up
Lift out the perch and let it rest on the ground
That way it can uncurl and hopefully toss its cookies
But usually a snake will toss up bad food pretty quickly
So it might not be that
That will not help it throw it up
Lift out the perch and let it rest on the ground
That way it can uncurl and hopefully toss its cookies
But usually a snake will toss up bad food pretty quickly
So it might not be that
Thanks guys, I finally got in contact with a after hour vet in Mackay.
Apparently the reptile specialist will not be in until tomorrow but this vet did tell me what I already knew. Keep temps up and, no handling etc.
At the moment she is curled up on the floor, but every few hours she will move around and look uncomfortable with open mouth for a couple of minutes. No more bile or black stuff has been thrown up since this morning. She looks fine even flicks tongue when i put my hand outside enclosure when she seems normal.
Apparently the reptile specialist will not be in until tomorrow but this vet did tell me what I already knew. Keep temps up and, no handling etc.
At the moment she is curled up on the floor, but every few hours she will move around and look uncomfortable with open mouth for a couple of minutes. No more bile or black stuff has been thrown up since this morning. She looks fine even flicks tongue when i put my hand outside enclosure when she seems normal.
ReptilesAsPets
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What type of snake is it and which vet in Mackay.?
A gtp and Mackay veterinary hospital.
Snake is very slugish/bloated.
Not looking good.
Pauls_Pythons
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Hate to be the one to say this but......................................
I have only seen this once. It was a hatchling diamond which died shortly after.
I didn't have a PM done as it was a hatchie and I put it down to a bad feed or that the stomach lining had maybe been ruptured during the feed.
Not suggesting this is the same or that your GTP is about to pass on but it is the only time I have seen black bile from a snake.
Shane Simpson works at the Karingal Vet Hospital in Victoria. He is one of Australia's best reptile vets. Number is[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Verdana][/FONT]03 9789 3444
I have only seen this once. It was a hatchling diamond which died shortly after.
I didn't have a PM done as it was a hatchie and I put it down to a bad feed or that the stomach lining had maybe been ruptured during the feed.
Not suggesting this is the same or that your GTP is about to pass on but it is the only time I have seen black bile from a snake.
Shane Simpson works at the Karingal Vet Hospital in Victoria. He is one of Australia's best reptile vets. Number is[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Verdana][/FONT]03 9789 3444
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Thanks Darlyn,
Gave the vet a call and thankfully he answered today.
With the symptoms I described, he too possibly believes that it may have been a bad rat due to the fact of the retching, bile and bloatedness.
He suggested and injection of Baytril and keeping the fluids up preferbly orally.
So I called the local vet back and forwarded the info and she was happy to assist with the injection etc.
she has had her injection of Baytril (5 ml i think) and she gave her an injection of saline (she did not want to risk possibly getting any fluid in the trachea. As I mentioned earlier the vet has has very little experience with snakes.
By the way I was quite suprised how much movement the snake had when I got her out to take to the vet.
If anyone has any input on any of this treatment, good or bad/ right or wrong please feel free to post.
Also, I have been given a Baytril Syringe with 3mm to give the snake in 24 hours. Is this sound advice and does it need to be refrigerated?
Again thanks heaps Darlyn, just the info I needed.
7 phone calls including Taronga Zoo and Australia Zoo and no help until APS members help out (you guys rock)
Will keep you in the loop and will let this girl settle in the cosy 33 degree enclosure.
IM? SC?
Longqi, Best way to help rehydration besides internal? Baths in powerade?
Thanks. The more complete Chondro says no Bactril near skin as it may cause death or necrosis
Ramsayi
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SC = subcutaneous, IM = intramuscular
Translation, intramuscular means injecting into a muscle
Subcutaneous means injecting under the skin
You need to find the muscle. Did the vet show you how/ where to do it?
Crap. The vet injected the stuff and it made a little lump of fluid under the skin (seemed fairly deep) which when manipulated slightly the lump became non existant.
Drinking fluids as we speak.
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