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I have peppered the story of Bonnie my 5yo 7ft coastal through other threads and told alot of it on the badgers introduction thread. Needless to say it is looking good for Bonnie and she is finally beginning to feed. She has never been aggressive until the last week (since October 21 actually). A feed calmed her down nicely. A few days later, she is snappy again (curiously it is more of a nudge than a bite) so I gave her another feed. Tonight she is the same, so I will feed her again, but the question is am I feeding her to much to soon.

She only weighs in at 1.9kg so she needs a kilo or two, but would it be bad to put on the required weight to quickly?

Some pics taken today of her next to Clyde who is the same age and length but began eating almost a month ago, and was always in better condition than Bonnie. Clyde is the darker and obviously chunkier looking of the two.

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I figure in the wild she would eat at will, but would it be bad to pack it on to quickly as she is a very light snake at present.
 
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Ah well, for any one "doing their research" here is the plan.
A jumbo rat weekly or a 150gm rat every four days.
Thanks Helikaon for the pm.

Thought about posting this as a separate thread but until then or never here is the history of my coastals Bonnie and Clyde:

THE HISTORY:
Aquired a pair of Qld Coastals in July. (I'm the 3rd owner). Both about 7ft and 5yo
2nd owner states first owner kept them out in his shed in a wardrobe with chicken wire for the backing, so no heating or anything.
2nd owner states that they were never big eaters, slowing down to zero through winter. Looking at females condition and settup 2nd owner built, I figured that it was a heat issue and she definately needed more to eat. Male was not so bad.
2nd owner states that they never bred while he had them but had them sexed, and first owner apparently did breed them.

I took them home (now owner number 3), tried to warm up existing enclosure but ended up deciding a new one was more practical both for heating and access. During the final week of the build the electrics died in old enclosure, I like to think it was only a day, and this was the second heat source (globe first, ceramic second) that had gone. Any way got a couple of spare lids with 100w lamps in them to tie over while warming the new enclosure and waiting for doors. (All of 48 hours) New enclosure did not heat as well as expected so took a few weeks to get temps sorted but at end of day the snakes were warmer than in old setup.

With temps all good for a reasonalbe time I rehashed old ideas, and tried some new ones, for feeding over many weeks and finally on 19 September, my male started eating and has not stopped. My female on the other hand became reclusive and my concerns led me to the Vet and I was given injectable antibiotics and F10 to give in a 1:500 dilution via nebulizer. This worked really well and she had her last injection on 28 September and had a really nice shed on the 1st October (Male shed three weeks earlier and just before I got them the 2nd owner told of them only just having a bad shed and there was still evidence of the fact)

So I am thinking all is well, good sheds, male eating, but female still refusing. By the 21st October I had enough and booked another 10 am vet appointment, then cancelled it after going to get her only to find she'd started laying.

I thought breeding was more techinical than that and so did not expect this to happen. In hind sight the signs were there but not obvious. She was almost as skinny as a snake half her size (both are about 7ft, she weighs 1.9kg), I was handling her the day before and noticed some unusual bumps but thought they were bits you shouldnt feel on a healthy weight snake. Maybe eggs did cross my mind for a second, but either way it was all that which led me to make another vet appointment.

Anyway she did not take long to lay and then curl around them, and I had organised an incubator for late afternoon. About 13 eggs, two definately slugs, and others looking a bit dehydrated. It would be nice if some make it but more concerned for Bonnie to be honest, as I know this should never have happened).

Day after lay she became very alert, sitting on top of her log watching anything that moved past the enclosure, and striking (but not biting:?) at hands in the enclosure. Time for a feed, and yes she fed. Settled down for a day and then the next day same thing, and yes took another rat (25 Oct.) At time of writting had not offered any more feeds.

So thats it, she has taken two more feeds since that was written with yesterday being the most recent. Hope fully she will recover nicely from here on.

It has been a bit of a crazy ride but I have learn't alot and enjoy this herps thing even more as a result. Finally decided to post this just to give some meaning to the thread.
 
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Congrats n all the best with the eggies..!
Glad to hear the female has resumed feeding..:)
 
Well done,it usually takes some time and plenty of patience for non feeders,ive got the same problem with a baby coastal.By the sounds of it,you didnt at all expect her to be gravid,what a surprise,glad you got her eating,i hope you have some luck with the eggs.
 
Thanks guys. No I did not expect her to be gravid. So much could have gone wrong, I am greatful that it didn't. I had even come to terms with the idea that she may not make it, and i actually thought the eggs would be her death sentence. Had her out today and she seems to be comming up for yet another shed! She fed two days ago and still only passes calcium stools as she no doubt needs all the protien. She is slowly looking better and feels heavier:D. Will try to get photos of eggs up at some point.
 
Diagnosing RI

Just looking back over post as I have posted a link to this story and realised I forgot to explain why I took her to the vet the first time:
I suspected RI because of Bonnie becoming reclusive and because she started hissing evey time she moved, and she yawned frequently. Her hiss sounded moist also and she began to crawl like a catapiller or worm--pushing the front of her body forward and then pulling the back part up.

We take her out almost daily but she looks and feels noticably heavier tonight :D.
 
good to hear shes doing well, she'll be up to the right weight in no time. and i wish you luck with the incubation

cheers
H.
 
Thanks. Guy helping me with the incubation doesn't hold alot of hope for eggs, but we remain hopeful, if only very quietly. Actually I hardly think about them lately. More focused on Bonnie, rat breeding, and finding means to buy more snakes.
 
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Looking through albums and thought I could ad this to Bonnie and Clydes. Then thought why not here. This is Bonnie today (or when I took the pic a few months ago). Weighed her last week and she is just shy of 6kg. The eggs mentioned previously went AWOL but not before I found out that 5 hatched. Grown an extra foot so now about 7ft or so which is still short for a 6yo coastal (I think I was a bit generous with original post she was prob. closer to 6ft then). Just happy she is doing well. She taught me alot.
 
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