Want supermoto/motard for L plater suggestions??

[Venomous1111]

Since Sydney's traffic is so rubbish and I'm sick of spending an hour to get to work in the mornings I'm looking at getting a new bike that I can ride on my L's so I can save some cash on fuel and also sleep lol.. I'm keen on getting a supermoto/motard or dirt bike converted with motard tyres looking at either getting a KTM 300 EXC (2 stroke)-400 EXC (4 stroke) - YZ WR450 or 250x or possibly a Husqvarna of some sort anyone else got any suggestions or rode the new KTMs before?

 

[Ambush]

I rode a mountain bike when I lived in Sydney. Car was a waste and a bike would of just been as bad. KTM's are a great bike.

 

[ericrs]

get the aprillia svx 550. porn of motards. i had the drz400. pretty cool bike. reliable as hell but not quiet as fast as the wr etc. the only problem with the dirt bikes mentioned above is the fact that riding them everyday in traffic clocks up the hours quick and they need servicing pretty regularly. if you can service them and check valve clearances etc yourself then its not much of an issue. but if your gonna pay a mechanic to do it it could get quiet costly.
in answer to your question. id go a ktm 4 stroke if i was going to do a tard conversion. purely because i have seen alot more ktms with high km on them than other makes. they seem to survive longer on the road.
i do warn you that owning a tard makes you ride like one. i turn into an absolute redneck when riding them. off gutters, sliding corners, and just other general activities that when not on a bike i am not proud of. lol. be prepared for that.

 

[inkaddict]

your better off buying one that already done.... the change over is pretty costly .... I had an 08 WR450 ... looked at getting it converted .. was gonna cost around 3-5 grand ... by the time u get rims.. tyres... brakes.... shocks .. and then get it all set up for your weight .... its just a mission .... have a look at suzuki's black motard .. I think they started making them last yr ... reliable and a nice bike to ride..... or on the other hand aprillia make a motard too .... not sure if its in the L's laws though !

 

[Recharge]

it's going to take a long time to recover the cost of decent protective gear for a bike, a long time, good quality leather jacket, gloves, helmet and boots that will offer the most protection should *or rather when* you either stack it or get crashed it by some idiot on a mobile phone.
you're looking at several thousand, that's a lot of fuel to purchase for a car, and parking as well.

and considering how dangerous it is with people using phones and eating and just plain morons who don't indicate or check before changing lanes and a whole heap of other potential problems, you'd be well advised to get decent medical insurance as well, add to the bike it's self... well, you get the idea, it's going to cost a heap, unless you're crazy enough to risk it all, and your future on saving a few bucks.

 

[Snake-Supplies]

I own a roadbike, I first got it to save cash on on fuel... but mainly because I always wanted one.
I love it, sunny days long rides.
Though I think the reasons you stated you want one for is not the right way to go about it.

How will getting a bike make you save time on the road?
Because you can go faster?
Because you can lane split?

You will also find that because it's cheaper to run on fuel, you will go out more and use more.
So it won't be that great big of a difference in the long run.

They get serviced more often, tires get worn quicker...
More cost.

Don't get a motorbike because of the wrong reasons, just get one, because you want one.
I think that's the only reason people should get motorbikes.

 

[Marzzy]

Motard Kit Suit Ktm And Husaberg Late Model | eBay
2,500 for Near New Set.

Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a older road bike ?
I do enjoy riding the Dirty on the road here and there but it would cost a fortune.
If you weren't ever going to take it off road you could put the brand new excel rims on eBay and get not a bad price for them and buy your motards.

A couple of Options.

 

[Venomous1111]

get the aprillia svx 550. porn of motards. i had the drz400. pretty cool bike. reliable as hell but not quiet as fast as the wr etc. the only problem with the dirt bikes mentioned above is the fact that riding them everyday in traffic clocks up the hours quick and they need servicing pretty regularly. if you can service them and check valve clearances etc yourself then its not much of an issue. but if your gonna pay a mechanic to do it it could get quiet costly.
in answer to your question. id go a ktm 4 stroke if i was going to do a tard conversion. purely because i have seen alot more ktms with high km on them than other makes. they seem to survive longer on the road.
i do warn you that owning a tard makes you ride like one. i turn into an absolute redneck when riding them. off gutters, sliding corners, and just other general activities that when not on a bike i am not proud of. lol. be prepared for that.

haha porn of motards,I'll check it out.. Servicing is no problems, my oldmans a bike mechanic..
The EXC is the top of my list so far but I love my 2 strokes, decisions decisions..

your better off buying one that already done.... the change over is pretty costly .... I had an 08 WR450 ... looked at getting it converted .. was gonna cost around 3-5 grand ... by the time u get rims.. tyres... brakes.... shocks .. and then get it all set up for your weight .... its just a mission .... have a look at suzuki's black motard .. I think they started making them last yr ... reliable and a nice bike to ride..... or on the other hand aprillia make a motard too .... not sure if its in the L's laws though !

Yeah I'm buying already converted for sure I'm willing to spend 10k max but not to sure what to pick.. the 400EXC is on the top of my list but as I said I love my 2 strokes.. Not a big fan of suzuki's in general but I'll check it out..

Motard Kit Suit Ktm And Husaberg Late Model | eBay
2,500 for Near New Set.

Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a older road bike ?
I do enjoy riding the Dirty on the road here and there but it would cost a fortune.
If you weren't ever going to take it off road you could put the brand new excel rims on eBay and get not a bad price for them and buy your motards.

A couple of Options.

cheers for the link mate.

Yeah it most likely would but I want a road worthy dirty lol.
I've got my 250f and 450f for the dirt so this will be purely for the road..

I'm going to have a look at a 300EXC 2009 model 2340km reg till April next year ready to go for $7600.. Won't be jumping on the first I see but it does look promising..

 

[ericrs]

if u like 2 strokes. get one. stuff what everyone else says.lol. you might have a hard time finding a 2 stroke tard already completed tho. there is a Australian supermoto website and all the guys on there are wicked. helped me out heaps and most of them rele know there shiz. there are heaps of threads on what bike suits what people etc.

 

[Gruni]

The KTM 300 is a great bike and can be tuned to suit you as a beginner and tweaked up later for more bang with the various power valves. Crf 250 great little bike with plenty of poke and great suspension/handling. Wr250f is bullet proof and cheap on fuel (mine has a 280 kit for a bit more bottom end) just make sure you run a cush hub as a motard or you'll root the gearbox, but that's an easy fit and works great. Either way get on line and look second hand as there are always plenty of newish bikes ging at bargain prices.

As for safety gear... you are looking at around $700 for a good setup in the affordable range. You don't need to go leather for a start. R-Jays make a great cordura all weather jacket for under $250, Rossi great Aussie made bike specific boots, Dragon jeans, your choice of gloves and any comfortable lid... KBC $200ish. I wear all of the above and it saved my bacon big time in a road off three years ago. Anything less than that though and you may aswell change your user name to 'Roadrash'. I also have an Ixon Hacker jacket for hot days.

I live in a small town and after my accident and some close shaves in Newcastle while driving the Santa Fe I think a bike in Syd peak hour is a mugs game... but that is your choice. I still ride and I still love all types of bikes, the people I know think I have a screw loose as when I came off the cops didn't think I'd make it and the ambos thought I'd be worse than I was, but it comes down to my habit of 'All of the gear ALL of the time' even if I am just going to get a bottle of milk from the corner shop.

 

[thomasssss]

ok you said you wanted suggestions , although this doesn't fall into supermoto category it is still a motard , get one of those road registered pit bikes , there fun as hell , i think you can still get them anyway not real sure

 

[Venomous1111]

if u like 2 strokes. get one. stuff what everyone else says.lol. you might have a hard time finding a 2 stroke tard already completed tho. there is a Australian supermoto website and all the guys on there are wicked. helped me out heaps and most of them rele know there shiz. there are heaps of threads on what bike suits what people etc.

I had a test ride on the 300 EXC yesterday thing goes pretty hard and it's a lot lighter then my 450f so I've decided to go with it, I'll check out that site and see what the blokes on there have to say about it.. Cheers for ya help mate.

ok you said you wanted suggestions , although this doesn't fall into supermoto category it is still a motard , get one of those road registered pit bikes , there fun as hell , i think you can still get them anyway not real sure

Na mate can't register thumpy's in NSW, I have two pisterpro's, ones a little rape bike that get's thrashed which is a 125cc and then I have my 160se with little 15inch rims that's got a bigger carbie, high flow oil cooler, and a bit of engine work that has about 30hp lol

 

[Troyster]

Motovert did an ADR approved pit bike mate, it was registerable off the showroom floor

 

[ericrs]

yea nice. get the exc. 300 2 banga would be soo much fun. as said above try and get a cush drive hub. will preserve the g-box a bit better. but in saying that i have seen plenty of tards gettin around without them with no problem. so im still on the fence with that one. in theory i can see how they would help massively. but i also seen how alot of bikes have just not needed them to begin with.
have fun loosing demerit points and paying fines mate, i know i did.

 

[Gruni]

ericrs the cush drive may not be needed on some bike but I know first hand several blokes who have had gearbox issues with WR250's that have been ridden hard at high revs on the blacktop and it isn't an if it is a when at that stage. I don't need to run one on my bike as it is setup for the dirt and the commuting I do is 5km to work in 50/60 zones so the bike isn't being ridden hard and it isn't any different to riding a transport section on the weekend. The idea is that on te dirt you break traction and that serves to cushion the impact on the gearbox where as on the bitumen your wheel grips and the shock to the drive shaft when you do high rev gear changes is substantial. Some bikes may not suffer as much but if you are set on a WR then look at getting a WR250r as they have a different gear ratio and are designed for road riding but are still 'capable' dirt bikes for punters who like to hit the trails from time to time, where as the 250f is designed as an enduro bike.

As for the pit bikes there are a couple of brands that are ADR approved even in NSW we had several of them getting around Inverell for a while it is just a matter of research but far from a desirable option if your head space is in the motard realm and if you need to tackle any of the toll roads or motorways.

 

[thomasssss]

Motovert did an ADR approved pit bike mate, it was registerable off the showroom floor

Yea I seen adds for them in moto mags ages ago like I said don't know if you can still get them though they had lights the whole works

Venomous1111 ,I've got a little 160cc that I did a bit of work with and replaced just about everything on it in the end, it actually started life as a 125cc just had to grind a little bit of the frame out from the back to make clearance for the lager bottom end and everything else fitted fine

 

[Heelssss]

just go for a hot pink vespa

 

[Venomous1111]

Motovert did an ADR approved pit bike mate, it was registerable off the showroom floor

Are they still little 14,15inch's like this?

DHZ OUTLAW 160R Motard Race Bike – Buy Online Australia at DHZ

Yea I seen adds for them in moto mags ages ago like I said don't know if you can still get them though they had lights the whole works

Venomous1111 ,I've got a little 160cc that I did a bit of work with and replaced just about everything on it in the end, it actually started life as a 125cc just had to grind a little bit of the frame out from the back to make clearance for the lager bottom end and everything else fitted fine

Nice what type of engine you running? what type of bike?

just go for a hot pink vespa

lol Heya stranger! what's up.. how was Thailand?? I'd rather ride a trolley then a vespa let alone a pink one

 

[Heelssss]

lol Heya stranger! what's up.. how was Thailand?? I'd rather ride a trolley then a vespa let alone a pink one [/QUOTE]


Lmao, I wouldn't ride one either

Thailand was amazing, got up to no good and had a ball.
I will post up some good girl pics soon

 

[thomasssss]

venomous1111 its got one of the lifans in it atm but im thinking about splashing out and buying one of the pitsterpros , the lifan just hasn't held up to getting a flogging and has a really bad case of engine chatter not sure whats wrong but i held it flat for a little to long , just about evreything else on the bike has been replaced now they dont last real long when they get thrashed