Where do you find reptiles to buy?

[croc_hunter_penny]

Hey everyone,

I have been looking for a couple of snakes to add to the ol' collection, but it's been a while and it seems all the old websites have disappeared.

Where do you go now to find breeders?

Where are the classifieds pages?

Is gumtree all we have now?

I'd really like to get a common tree snake and also a water python. Nobody seems to have either of these anymore, just lots of carpet pythons and jags it seems

 

[chloe.j.f]

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[ColourBombReptiles]

What groups would you suggest XD

 

[Sdaji]

It's mostly Facebook groups, and there's also Reptiles Classifieds Australia.

Unfortunately, Facebook is an extremely poor format for classifieds, but nonetheless it's taking over every aspect of the internet, even where it makes things much, much worse. It makes classifieds almost unsearchable for more than a few days back, so you need to keep watching, as opposed to older style websites which let you search back over the last few weeks or months.

 

[Yellowtail]

Reptile Classifieds seems to have gone missing today?
I hope we are not down to Facebook.

 

[Sdaji]

Reptile Classifieds seems to have gone missing today?
I hope we are not down to Facebook.

It seems you're right!

Let's hope we're not stuck with Facebook! Presumably someone will put up an alternative to RCA (just as RCA replaced RDU), but every time it changes it'll take a while for some people to catch on.

 

[ColourBombReptiles]

I can’t fond any good breeders on Facebook, but atleast we can see reptiles that are actually still available!

 

[Herpetology]

Australian reptile enthusiasts has a few of the big name people.

The way I tell is seeing who is freinds with my friends who are big breeders and quite private in who they add. (They only add people who have made a breakthrough In a new morph, are specialists in certain species etc)

 

[jacques92]

Facebook got lots of reptile pages .
If you post what you are after on any of them someone will tag a breeder of the species you are after.

 

[nuttylizardguy]

Gumtree, PetPages are the first places I look when I am ready to take on a new lizard as a pet.

Took a few years for me to find someone who had a young captive bred eastern water skink for sale.
Plenty of people breeding bluetongues, bearded dragons and water dragons, but people who are breeding netted dragons, pink tongues, water skinks and the like are very scarce.

I don't buy reptiles very often and only ever deal with breeders who a closer than a 1 hour drive from my home.

 

[Stuart]

Anyone want to help set something up with APS? Just an idea considering this site won't be going anywhere

 

[ColourBombReptiles]

Maybe

 

[Yellowtail]

Anyone want to help set something up with APS? Just an idea considering this site won't be going anywhere

I sent a message to Shaun asking what was happening with the Reptile Classifieds site and only got a vague answer like he's been away from the computer, did not know and would check?
The structure and functionality of RCA was good except perhaps the photos were too small when viewed on a computer and APS is better in that regard. No idea of the economics of running such a site but APS exists now so any revenue from advertising etc must be a bonus to the existing cost structure, RCA charged for a variety of things including bumps and I am sure breeders will be happy with something similar.

 

[Fall guys]

Anyone want to help set something up with APS? Just an idea considering this site won't be going anywhere

i can help if you ever need it i assume its finish the market place you had ideas for a while ago?

 

[Wokka]

Dont most of the big sites buy out the smaller ones to stop the dilution of traffic. I think its standard capitalism to wipe out the opposition, create a monopoly , then put up prices! I think something like APS, which doesn't have a profit motive, would be a great base to build from.

 

[Pauls_Pythons]

Herptrader is still running but has very little traffic since it became seperated from Brians herpshop and started charging a fee.
Reptile Classifieds is quite poor tbh. Spends so much time offline.

FB is the best location for buying and selling regardless of whether people like the idea or not. Huge audience and easy to find whatever it is you are looking for. Half my hatchies were sold this year before I was ready to advertise them.

 

[Yellowtail]

Herptrader is still running but has very little traffic since it became seperated from Brians herpshop and started charging a fee.
Reptile Classifieds is quite poor tbh. Spends so much time offline.

FB is the best location for buying and selling regardless of whether people like the idea or not. Huge audience and easy to find whatever it is you are looking for. Half my hatchies were sold this year before I was ready to advertise them.

Maybe because I'm the only one in Australia not spending most of my time on FB I don't understand it but I find it just a mass of morph photos with people posting likes, I knew someone that got thousands of likes for her snake collection photos but when she had to sell none of the likes bought any. A lot of my hatchlings are sold to people referred from previous buyers but I have had no problem selling anything I advertised on Reptile Classifieds for good prices. I am rarely a buyer because I maintain a closed collection and then only from people I know and trust who breed what I need.

 

[Southernserpent]

Not having a go at you yellowtail but how are you a closed collection if you buy animals in. What is the actual definition of a closed collection as I here it often

 

[Yellowtail]

Not having a go at you yellowtail but how are you a closed collection if you buy animals in. What is the actual definition of a closed collection as I here it often

In the last 2 years I have purchased 2 axanthic jungles and one paradox albino and they are in quarantine in my home 100 metres from my main collection for 3 years then I will have a virus test done before I will consider using them in any breeding program. A few I purchased before that like imbricatas and GTP's are also in my home and while they are well past even the most extreme quarantine period I do not breed them. My breeding animals that I sell hatchlings from are all descended from animals I purchased more than 10 years ago, no one else goes near my breeding animals and I have a strict protocol with handling and cleaning, all buyers are met off site and do not handle a hatchling till they have bought it, I breed my own rodents in laboratory conditions and have disposed of rodents that may have been in the vicinity of wild carpets before I managed to make my rodent growing area completely snake proof, not 100% as you say but I can only think of one breeder who goes beyond this.

 

[Sdaji]

In the last 2 years I have purchased 2 axanthic jungles and one paradox albino and they are in quarantine in my home 100 metres from my main collection for 3 years then I will have a virus test done before I will consider using them in any breeding program. A few I purchased before that like imbricatas and GTP's are also in my home and while they are well past even the most extreme quarantine period I do not breed them. My breeding animals that I sell hatchlings from are all descended from animals I purchased more than 10 years ago, no one else goes near my breeding animals and I have a strict protocol with handling and cleaning, all buyers are met off site and do not handle a hatchling till they have bought it, I breed my own rodents in laboratory conditions and have disposed of rodents that may have been in the vicinity of wild carpets before I managed to make my rodent growing area completely snake proof, not 100% as you say but I can only think of one breeder who goes beyond this.

That's pretty impressive! It goes beyond my standards and you're one of only about 2 or 3 people I can think of I can say that about. Actual quarantine requires this sort of approach, and almost no one does anything resembling effective quarantine. Interesting to hear from someone who actually takes it seriously.