Will this be suitable for a bredli?? Please help, thanks:)

[Iceman5]

I am currently looking at setting up an enclosure for a bredli python..... I have been checking out the Exo Terra Flexarium 100 and would like to know if this will be suitable. It is a 100 gallon - 76 x 42 x 122 cm mesh enclosure..... any comments on the suitability of this would be greatly apreciated

 

[cwebb]

how long do you plan on keeping the python in it? bredlis get well over 6 foot haha....

 

[saximus]

That's a touch on the small side for an adult carpet but people keep them in 4x2x2 all the time which is almost the same. It probably depends how big he/she end up too. I've seen some monster Bredlis

 

[Tinky]

I would say a tough small for a fully grown adult, and my guy is growing fast.

Would go for a bit bigger if possiable in both width and height, (they are aborial).

 

[Iceman5]

OK might have to look at something bigger or perhaps something more like a Stimpsons that doesn't grow quite so large... I was assuming that heat pads and lamps can be fitted into one of these enclosures without to many hasles?

 

[saximus]

Even a smaller Morelia like a Jungle or MD would probably be ok if carpets are what you're interested in

 

[Iceman5]

hmm.... thanks for the feedback guys, much apreciated, looks like I need to find a more suitable set up

 

[J-A-X]

as for your bredli Iceman, maybe consider making your own for when your snake reaches adulthood, there are heaps of threads about making your own, and its not as hard as most seem to think. a hatchy will be fine in a small click clack/ escapeproof tub for a little while, but they seem to grow rapidly and need their enclosure upped to adult size in about 3years. (or less in some cases)

Personally I don't think they're suitable for housing any python in down here in SA, it's much too cold & those enclosures offer way too much ventilation, you'd never heat it sufficiently.

Too much ventilation isnt a problem if you have the tank setup properly. I'm in the Adelaide hills, so winter is not so nice up here, yet my coastal is growing and eating well and hasn't fully brumated this year (she slowed down but still ate regular as clockwork) all in a tank that has 'excessive ventilation'. (see below) yes i put a board on the roof - which is full perforated steel) that covers 3/4 of it. during winter. the only heat source she has is a 25w heat cord under her hide. (24/7) (the light is only a 25w flouro and any heat goes straight through the roof

Summers here can be 40c+ for a couple of weeks at a time and i was more concerned about keeping the temps cool in summer than warm in in winter. I give her enough heat to avoid RI and go into full brumation. Set them up right and there wont be any issues.

 

[Iceman5]

wow that's a great looking setup Jax, very impressive. I have been doing a little research today on the idea of building my own enclosure, I'm begining to think that is probably the direction I will head in..... either building something from scratch or perhaps converting an old piece of furniture.

 

[J-A-X]

Thanks, the only reason I posted was to show that there isn't just one way to set up an enclosure. BUT you do need to think it through thoroughly, like I said, I have a piece of 'flute board' (looks like plastic cardboard) that I cover 3/4 of the roof with in winter, I had some for the sides too but haven't needed them.

Cruise through the threads here in the DIY forum and I'm sure you'll find quite a few ideas on how to proceed. Think about what species will be using it, what sort of heating do you want to use, is it a climber or a ground dweller? What sort of humidity etc etc

PS I know that you plan on a bredli, but these questions should be asked by anyone thinking about enclosures

 

[Iceman5]

Yeah I have been checking out a few threads which has helped a lot, I really need to make up my mind on the species I want, the bredli is leading the pack so to speak but I'm also quite keen on the idea of a woma or stimpsons...... no point worrying about the details of an enclosure until I make my mind up on what is going into it I guess.

 

[J-A-X]

knowing which species definately helps with the choice of height over width. womas and stimmies seem to prefer ground or just above so more width than height makes sense. Ive seen bredli vivs either high or wide. you could spend your spare time designing both, then when you've decided on a species youre all prepared (or better yet get both )

 

[J-A-X]

Ventilation was the wrong word, I meant an enclosure made purely of mesh would be difficult to heat properly. There's a heap of difference between the Flexarium & that enclosure you've posted a picture of (glass front, covered roof, solid base, hard back). I don't believe it's even easy to mount a heat lamp/light inside a Flexarium.

I really hate to be picky, but what part of a full steel mesh top and half sides didn't you notice,? she only has a 25w heat cord in there. and a thin piece of plastic that covers 3/4 of the roof in the middle of winter, to slow the breeze, it wouldn't retain any heat. That tank would have to be one of the most 'ventilated' and lowest heated enclosures i've seen apart from outdoor aviaries, and for the most part the ambient temp is hovering around 10c I dont heat the room in winter ! but i will happily were the 'minority' hat.

Having said that, i wouldn't like to keep a snake in a flexarium full time, i'd be worried about rubbing scales and the like, the holes in my steel are smallish but not minute, and i had all the steel powdercoated to avoid the sharp edges because i was worried about scales lifting, there have been several warnings on gutter type mesh, flyscreen mesh etc. I admit that the mesh on the flexarium look pretty soft and i'd be worried about mounting hides, branches as well as the heat light and not making it top heavy.

 

[Iceman5]

Thanks for all the advice, I have given up on the flexarium idea and will look at buying or building a more dedicated enclosure..... be prepared for the possibility of more "help, is this ok" questions

 

[srowles]

enclosures

can build one for u

 

[jared_NEVILL]

i started with a stimson and later got bredlis i now have the adult and one of of the hatchies still they are unreal snakes very placid and easy to handle. They do grow quiet large so it is up to you whether you want a small snake or a biggie. I personally would recommend getting a bredli as once you get one you will want bigger and bigger