Woma Agression

[tjyablo1]

I just got a male woma python, he is around 6 months old. I have had him for a little over a week. At the pet store where I got him I handled him without trouble and was able to do the same the day I brought him home. However now he becomes defensive and snaps when I try to pick him up. Is this just because he needs more time to get used to his new home?

 

[Umbral]

I would say so, it's generally best to leave them for a week or two when moving to a new enclosure.

 

[Robynne]

When he settles down, and he will, these snakes are the most enjoyable creatures, I have two and apart from my boy not feeding at the moment, I have no problems. They love getting out and exploring. If I dont let them out they start banging on the glass till I open the door. They stretch out to me to say hello, then they head for the floor and buzz around. Im absolutly hooked on these snakes, my female loves the stairs and the bathroom, and goes for anything she can climb.

 

[leamos]

They love getting out and exploring. If I dont let them out they start banging on the glass till I open the door.

My male tanami does the same, thats why he's called Boof

Tjyablo, just give him some time to settle in and he'll be a joy to handle (when he's not hungry hahaha)

 

[WomaBoy]

I am getting a male tanami woma !! in a weeek any tips ?!?

 

[leamos]

Yeah Benji, put it in its click clack, close the lid and leave it for at least a week, don't feed it, handle it, hover over it, don't do anything just let it settle in. Its extremely difficult and requires alot of self control but its better in the long run

 

[reptalica]

What ^^^^^^ said. Show some resistance in the early stages and you will be rewarded. I was in the same boat, but common sense prevailed. A good snake keeper has a lot of experience and knowledge but one thing that is paramount is common sense.

Exercise that and you too will become a proficient keeper.

 

[WomaBoy]

Im getting a 8 month old one soo he will be too big, and yeah im just gunna leave him for a week, then feed him then leave him aonther 3 days then get him out

Thaanks

 

[yommy]

its a woma hatchie thing, they always do the the defensive 'Leave me alone, i'm an eatern brown' its a bluff and result in a headbutt over an actual bite 9 times out of 10.

Gently handle it when its like that, it will soon learn that your not going to eat him and start to settle.

Its a woma they do this, part of their awesome personalities. they do calm down, but there are exceptions to every rule.
Your woma just needs to learn to trust you and you trust him too.....

Does he look like this ???

 

[roobars]

Hope you have better luck than me, my male woma is almost 2, and is the most aggressive little !#$% known to man.. (me)... he strikes strikes, strikes, even at his food... whack whack whack... wont take food until i drop it... then he drags it into his hide. He bit me while I was holding him to clean up his lil house and all.... silly snakey


My female woma is very lovely though hope they make good babies

 

[GeckoJosh]

At least yours gives you some warning by striking, my male fools me by acting all friendly then without warning he casually starts chewing on me

 

[JasonL]

What ever you do don't become scared of it biting you and don't use hooks, gloves ect, small python bites do not hurt. Let it settle a bit longer, a change in environment can turn a pythons temperament, either way, and at any age. It is far better that the keeper gets over being bitten and become a better handler as snakes generally do bite, its what they are good at, don't blame them.

 

[rvcasa]

...Is this just because he needs more time to get used to his new home?

BINGO!

Leave him alone for a couple of weeks.
(and avoid cage in a high traffic area)

Womas are not known to be aggressive.
(but can be ferociously feeders, ie snap first and ask questions later, perhaps cause they lack heat pits)

Read this:
http://sxr.com.au/Article PDFs/woma_lr.pdf




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[WomaBoy]

When he settles down, and he will, these snakes are the most enjoyable creatures, I have two and apart from my boy not feeding at the moment, I have no problems. They love getting out and exploring. If I dont let them out they start banging on the glass till I open the door. They stretch out to me to say hello, then they head for the floor and buzz around. Im absolutly hooked on these snakes, my female loves the stairs and the bathroom, and goes for anything she can climb.View attachment 262365View attachment 262366

Haahah having a drink of coke in the shower

 

[thomasssss]

Womas are not known to be aggressive.
(but can be ferociously feeders, ie snap first and ask questions later, perhaps cause they lack heat pits)

im not sure if its been proven yet but i know there is talk that womas actually do have heat pits , just on the underside of the tip of their nose

 

[rvcasa]

im not sure if its been proven yet but i know there is talk that womas actually do have heat pits , just on the underside of the tip of their nose

(sorry very of topic here)
I think you could probably be confused w/ BHP?

I've also mentioned that to a breeder/keeper/biologist and he mentioned BHP, not Womas...

There's some interesting read (although not yet backed up scientifically) here:
http://www.pilbarapythons.com/pythons.htm

And a couple interesting videos:
http://www.pilbarapythons.com/videos.htm

If you have any printed material, please share with us all, it would be very interesting read. Cheers.




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[thomasssss]

rvcasa , yes it is talked about in bhps but im not confused i have heard about womas maybe having the same thing in the exact same spot after all they are from the same genus
Womas and Heat Pits


http://www.aussiepythons.com/forum/reptile-news-5375/finally-proved-89964/
also in this last link by dave from pilbra pythons he doesn't specifically say that the work is directed at bhps only , just that it is for the aspidites spp , dont you think if the work was only directed at aspidites melanocephalus then he would have specifically said that , not that the aspidites genus have heat pits

 

[rvcasa]

(again, very off topic here)
I've also heard about snakes w/ 7 heads but never read about it!

Don't get me wrong, but until scientific written material is published, I won't believe "Womas are venomous 'cause have fangs at back of their mouths" either.

Have a good day.



P.S. does your Woma have "heat pit on the underside of the tip of the nose"?
I cannot see it on mine, but I don't have any equip to check it properly. Cheers

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[thomasssss]

read the links i just posted , have a good day

thing i find funny is you posted a picture of where the heat pit is on a bhp , have you ever looked in the same spot on your woma , its still there the exact same pale colour in the same spot , have you ever done any research into whether or not womas do have one or did you just think they dont , 5 seconds on google and it comes up with heaps of articles discussing whether womas have heat pits or not , maybe try google for yourself

 

[rvcasa]

I think you should have started your own thread about Woma's heat pits, instead of hijacking someone else's.

And I also understand you're very eager to be always right all the time, but unlike you, I don't have the time to seat behind a PC screen searching Google so you can contradict almost every post around this forum, including my owns! - I've noticed that - often.

Get a life and stop following me and contradict me all the time, you're so argumentative!!
I have no patience for kids like you.

I find it funny, you told me you've had your first Woma just a few months ago and suddenly you became an expert over night! Fooling newbie kids. What a hero, aka a keyboard warrior


As I said before I did look into the same spot on a Woma and did not see anything! (perhaps 'cause I don't have the right tools?)

The two links/stories are just repeats of one another, copy and paste! And none of them mentions the same brain mechanism of the BHP, on a Woma though!
The op also says he didn't find any other info anywhere else...
It's interesting 'cause it hasn't been published in any journals or books
(I asked!) or it would have been widely know!
if you wish you may contact Dr. Rick Shine and see if he has any info on these...


And yes, I have done research into Womas (not just heat pits) but not a "5 sec Google research" but more like 5 months and initially with experts/biologists (some friends of the family) who breed these in Oz. And for me far more valuable and credible than a mantra google search.


I have nothing more to say to you, so don't bother writing any more crap, 'cause I'll just ignore it and won't reply.

So, you keep on reading your googles and be happy with your google doctrine.


P.S. Now I know why some top professionals won't post in here; 'cause "there's too many wannabe experts and rowdies in there"

OVER & OUT