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Photos = evidence, and so he can't say "There's nothing wrong with the snake".
 
He's so emaciated. How can anybody sell an animal like that and say it's in good condition? Let alone adding the stress of freight. I think the herper who is responsible should reconsider keeping reptiles if he thinks that is in good condition.
Don't return him to the seller. Sounds fair to claim back 1/3rd of the costs, it's going to take alot of dedication and vet bills to pay for his rehabilitation. That's if he survives. Not to mention tests done on the the other two females.
Good luck.
 
That is so sad... and mean. I wouldnt hesitate asking for my money back!!! Please dont send him away... if he makes it through this with your help you would have almost definatly saved his life. Make him better... I totally agree with ad... he wont breed this season but if you make him better, it will all the more rewarding when he does!!!
 
that is your first mistake, still u shouldnt have to pay full price for something that is clearly in a bad state
 
Have you tried to feed him yet? I'd get some food into him asap and then keep feeding him quite heavily over the next month or so, you would be surprised what a few quick feeds can do, if you can do that theres a good chance he will breed this year, macs are pretty randy buggers.

I would ask for some money back for sure, it's not right selling snakes like that unless the buyer knows.
 
If it has internal parasites, it'll bring the food back up, which it probably doesn't have the strength to deal with. Have to get down the Clayton Knight and get a faecal check and probably a Flagyl shot.
 
i would honestly try him on a small feed first, if he has internal parasites doesn't mean he will reguritate, and if he does it won't hurt him, it's up to you but do something soon as you can.
 
I've had a female carpet who had internal parasites (flagelates or however you spell it). It basically rendered her guts useless, she'd bring up her feed after 2-3 days. She had a course of Flagyl, but was too far gone, and ended up choking to death whilst regurgitating a quail.

I'm going to get him healthy again, just going to take it to the vet (hour away) for a fecal sample first.
 
Having just had a brief conversation with sxereturn it appears we both have sick snakes from the same bloke. I got a male Stimsoni off him and it has slowly deteriorated in the couple of months I've had him. I recently took him to a Vet and he is being treated for flagelates but he's not responding too well. He has incredibly low muscle tone and can barely move the back half of his body around. I have to take him to the Vet again on Monday for more tests. A faecal exam came back negative and the Vet is scratching her head wondering what's wrong and she's one of the best herp vets in Australia.
 
Some PM's I have received about this...not naming any names.

HI Jonno,
That is one sad mac, very disappointing Im sure.
I cant believe someone would send a snake in that condition.
Anyway if you are looking for male let me know.
Mine is in 1000% better conditin than that and looks breeding size to me.
He is as big as my childrens that bred last year, I know macs need to be a bit bigger than childrens but If I dont sell him I will find a female for him this season. He will be 3 yo by the breeding season. $200
Eats anything offered and as docile as - very friendly
hope you get the other one sorted though!
Cheers
 
Another PM -

Hi sxe,

Sorry to hear of your unfortunate deal. Yes demand 1/3 of the money you paid. If he fails to take any responsibility, ignores your calls and emails etc then expose his sorry backside. Everyone needs to be warned about these types of people. Not only to buy from but to sell to as well, it's obvious his methods of herpetology are pathetic.

Recon there should be a public blacklist huh.

Good luck.

Regards,
 
that would have to be the most unhealthy snake i have ever seen and the sell should not have sold it in that condition and if they wonted to get rid of it that badly should have stated that it was in very poor condition
 
sxereturn said:
I'll wait and see what the guy wants to do first.

i would still try and feed him first, in the end if he does go back at least you have some piece of mind knowing that he at least good some good attention.

if he goes home sad to say he will probably die :(
 
I won't be sending him back. It's obvious this isn't a one off thing...I won't sentence him to death, I just want my money back so I can purchase a snake of someone who isn't a prick.
 
I understand you are not happy with what has happened but I think it is wrong to post PM that is why they are PRIVATE MESSAGES.Especially considering those are not of an abusive matter that need attention.Just my opinion don't take it the wrong way.I DO think you should name this person who has a very poor collection of herps.
 
I didn't post the names of the people who sent me the PM's...

If he does the right thing by me, I won't name him. If he continues on the path he is on, I will rat him out on every website I can find. I've also spoken to NSW NPWS and Department of Fair Trading, both of which are on my side.

I'm going to give him 2 options.

1 - He refunds 1/3rd of my money ($200) right now.
2 - I take the animal to Clayton Knight, the best, most respected reptile vet in Brisbane, and get him to write up a report on the condition of the animal to prove that he is very unhealthy, and then have him refund me my $200 + the vet bills.

If he refuses to refund my money, I'll name him, plus take legal action.
 
i think he should be named anyway. help to stop him from selling more of these animals to people who are paying good money for a healthy one.
 
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