Yeh its a shame dobes ,they sound like aussie battlers too,mate i miss being able to here roosters crowing in the morning here.My neighbour has three cattle dogs and he keeps them in his backyard,the inbred that lives at the back of him had pup that dug under the fence and got in hisbackyard and apparently they played together until the pup made a wrong move and was killed by one of the cattle dogs.They are declared dangerous dogs now and its cost him a small fortune in signs and securing his yard and the council didnt care about what wittnesses said etc.We seem to live in a society where banks and the dollar is deregulated and politicians and public servants have nothing to do so they regulate lizards,dogs&cats and fireworks. Cheers colin.