baby blue tongue wont eat need help
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Serpentess
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Well, you might want to find out their genders because if they're both male, they will fight and the big one will win. Won't be a pretty picture.
Our little guys started fighting at about 10 months of age - when one of them lost the tip of his tail, we separated them.
Bunnings isn't a pet store. I mean, sure they provide great building equipment for enclosures, but when it comes down to substrate it's not something they specialize in, you know? You're probably better off with some shredded Aspen or recycled paper kitty litter.
JAS101
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i use sugar cane mulch and hay for my blues with no issues [ but it is only in one corner ] with a kitty litter substrate.
notechistiger
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People often buy their substrate from Bunnings and similar places. There's no reason why someone can't. Doesn't have anything to do with specialising in substrates.
Serpentess
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I never said people don't buy it from there or that all of it is bad.
The mulch, etc. they sell at Bunnings has not been produced with the thought of being substrate in an enclosure...
Some of it isn't the best choice for your reptile.
Unless you are certain about the positives and negatives of the mulch you choose from Bunnings, it's best to steer clear from it.
And so I round back up to what I said; Bunnings doesn't specialize in substrate, so not all of they mulches they stock are good for your reptile.
Revan - The link you sent from Dr David VELLA (a very well respected Herp Vet) does indeed comment that time in natural sunlight is beneficial...
however, you have based your entire lighting regime is based on one of six points on the topic posted by the Doc - in fact he recommends the use of UVB supplementation to "stimulate natural foraging and feeding behaviours"
Quite simply I believe that these issues you are experiencing are as a result of overall poor husbandry - your lighting and heating setups are insufficient, you are housing two entirely different sized animals together (often resulting in stress with the smaller animal) and seem to ignore the advice given by many people of the past five pages.
however, you have based your entire lighting regime is based on one of six points on the topic posted by the Doc - in fact he recommends the use of UVB supplementation to "stimulate natural foraging and feeding behaviours"
Quite simply I believe that these issues you are experiencing are as a result of overall poor husbandry - your lighting and heating setups are insufficient, you are housing two entirely different sized animals together (often resulting in stress with the smaller animal) and seem to ignore the advice given by many people of the past five pages.
Revan - That is an interesting conclusion to come to...do you mind if I ask how you came to it?
It is a topic that people have debated for some time, however, the vast majority of captive lizards requiring UV are kept with a UVB bulb within their enclosure very successfully. Of course, natural sunlight is a better option, but find it VERY difficult to believe that one hour per week is sufficient.
I actually agree with Revan on this one. The reason for believing this is that the time a lizard spends close enough to the light to actually benefit from the UV produced, which is no where near the amount from sunlight, can be quite minimal. Lets face it UV from a UV light is useless at distances over 30cm's unless you are running metal halides.
However i think a couple of hours is more appropriate than 1 hr. My blueys have never had UV lights and are doing just fine with a couple of hours outside in a mesh terrarium on weekends. As for not eating try some scrambled egg mine have never refused egg.
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jewfish1
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Revan:
Was the baby bluey eating ok before you got it??
Is there any obvious sign of an injury??
Was the baby bluey eating ok before you got it??
Is there any obvious sign of an injury??
SuburbanMe
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revan - I'm gonna PM you another site to go to that specializes in Blueys. i'm a mod there as is another member of this site.
There is a newbie section that has all the info you need - but to access it you need to join. Don't worry - it's free!
If anyone else is interested in the site - PM me and I'll link ya - I don't wanna go and get myself in trouble posting links to other sites here.
There is a newbie section that has all the info you need - but to access it you need to join. Don't worry - it's free!
If anyone else is interested in the site - PM me and I'll link ya - I don't wanna go and get myself in trouble posting links to other sites here.
yes it was eating before i got it and it looks pretty healthy the rib bones arent showing so thats a good sign . at the moment its eaten a few crickets but that about it and ive tried feeding it every thing the breeders an you guys suggested.
jewfish1
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revan - The little bluey does look pretty normal for a baby. The larger bluey seems, by the pics to be more than 6 months old and as "SuburbanMe" suggested earlier there could be a problem in having them in the same enclosure at this point in time due to domination issues.
If possible, perhaps putting the little one in another enclosure on its own might help. or you could divide the enclosure to separate them.
I think the change of environment has been very stressful for the little fella and a lack of hiding places might be making him feel very vulverable and exposed.
Also, when feeding move away or hide. Sometimes they won't eat if you're there.
I know its not a substrate thread but I don't think the eucy mulch is a good idea although it looks good. Imagine for a moment if either of the blueys accidentally ingested the mulch, could cause medical issues.
Keep presenting the food and hopefully he'll settle down soon.
Good luck. I now its a very stressful time for you.
If possible, perhaps putting the little one in another enclosure on its own might help. or you could divide the enclosure to separate them.
I think the change of environment has been very stressful for the little fella and a lack of hiding places might be making him feel very vulverable and exposed.
Also, when feeding move away or hide. Sometimes they won't eat if you're there.
I know its not a substrate thread but I don't think the eucy mulch is a good idea although it looks good. Imagine for a moment if either of the blueys accidentally ingested the mulch, could cause medical issues.
Keep presenting the food and hopefully he'll settle down soon.
Good luck. I now its a very stressful time for you.
JAS101
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should be , even if its only for a few weeks [ to see if the little one will eat]
SuburbanMe
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yeah that'll be fine! I've got 2 Adults sharing a 2ft tank at the moment - not ideal - but it's winter - so they should be brumating anyway.
notechistiger
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The fact that it was eating previously generally means it's an environmental problem. Have you changed your husbandry so far with what people have been saying? Getting temps, UV, supplements, stress and humidity factors correct in the beginning will save you so much trouble.
If you're halving the tank, make sure to supply a second heat source for the other one (you may have to set lower temperatures or get lower wattages so that you don't overheat the two). Are you still handling the bluie?
If you're halving the tank, make sure to supply a second heat source for the other one (you may have to set lower temperatures or get lower wattages so that you don't overheat the two). Are you still handling the bluie?
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