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[Wrightpython]

I feel the need to murder people who say keelback on this forum. If only I could send anthrax through the interweb....

Even with the description, GeckPhotographer could still be right. People often see what the want/ expect to see when dealing with snakes, particularly if they only have a passing interest.

What's wrong with keel backs , warning people someone on here will apparently murder you if you post a pic of a keel back and ask for an id

 

[Echiopsis]

If its a keelback, cool. If its a moron with a low IQ 'being funny', anthrax it is....

 

[Curiousity]

well I guess I'm now treading on thin ****** whats a keel back? The only thing I want to see murdered here is technology. Burn down an exchange and the world slows.....to a grind

 

[Gruni]

Freshwater Snake (Keelback Snake) - Queensland Museum

 

[vicherps]

heres a pick of a Lowland Copperhead with a orangey-red nape and flanks not mine but a good example of what i am talking about.

 

[Echiopsis]

well I guess I'm now treading on thin ****** whats a keel back? The only thing I want to see murdered here is technology. Burn down an exchange and the world slows.....to a grind

Haha, your alright, theres just a few dead heads who post the same rubbish over and over and over again because they think they're funny.
Have you get a photobucket account or something similar? Upload it and dump the link here, you dont even need it to show in the thread.

 

[vicherps]

well I guess I'm now treading on thin ****** whats a keel back? The only thing I want to see murdered here is technology. Burn down an exchange and the world slows.....to a grind

Keelbacks are colubrids but are not apart of the snake fauna in victoria i think its a bit of a joke people have been making.

 

[Curiousity]

We do get Coppers here but have never seen a young copper. The band has got me. Had two people look today and they say Tiger. It's not like a young tiger I have seen

 

[vicherps]

We do get Coppers here but have never seen a young copper. The band has got me. Had two people look today and they say Tiger. It's not like a young tiger I have seen

Yeah tigers would be around there so it is certainly a possibility. If those 2 people are good at identifying snakes then i guess you have your answer.

 

[jordo]

Keelbacks are colubrids but are not apart of the snake fauna in victoria i think its a bit of a joke people have been making.

It's an old APS joke, nothing to do with their distribution or the snake itself, I find it annoying because half the dim wits that say it don't even realise why it was funny in the first place.

 

[vicherps]

It's an old APS joke, nothing to do with their distribution or the snake itself, I find it annoying because half the dim wits that say it don't even realise why it was funny in the first place.

I shall reworded it because what I said before was a bit confusing. What I was meant to say was the thing about it being a Keelback was just a aps joke. But where I was getting to was that keelbacks are not apart of the Victorian snake fauna nor is any other colubrid for that matter (new comers might not get the joke).

 

[BIGBANG]

if you are from hamilton my money is on copperhead, its full of them down there

 

[Curiousity]

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Tell me I got it.......... From what has been discussed I'm with the Copper head. As far as forum jokes go and newbies I can wear them. I myself can run off with the scienticfic gentics and paterns of some other breeds but reptiles well I'm the ? in the corner.

 

[RedFox]

Copperhead and I see what you mean about the band. Here's a pic I stole form the internet for comparison.View attachment 271698

 

[vicherps]

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Tell me I got it.......... From what has been discussed I'm with the Copper head. As far as forum jokes go and newbies I can wear them. I myself can run off with the scienticfic gentics and paterns of some other breeds but reptiles well I'm the ? in the corner.

It is a Lowland Copperhead (Austrelaps superbus) as I suspected.

 

[Bluetongue1]

Well picked Jordan. Spot on!

Curiosity, I don't blame you for thinking it was a RBB.
Copperheads do vary a lot in colour but they don’t tend to have the same deep glossy back that RBBs have and the top of the head is usually a different shade to the body colour. The side of the head in Copperheads will often be light in colour and show up the labial scales.

Blue

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One like this Redfox, from the Museum Victoria site?

 

[Curiousity]

Over 26 years we have spotted one Copper (adult) doesn't mean by any means that they arn't about. Tigers on the other hand are a regular sighting. The head on this one didn't spell Copper to me but I guess being a youngster and the other being a (I'm a stick and hiding adult) the heads could look very different.

 

[Bluetongue1]

There is absolutely no shame in picking that specimen as a RBB. It is only on closer inspection that someone very familiar with both species would pick it. The band of colour across the nape says not a RBB. If you look carefully you can see the head is a dark tan rather than dark glossy black. In my limited experience, the ventro-lateral colours on Copperheads tend to be most intense on the front end of the animal, fading towards the rear.

I kept both as a kid and I reckon both are magnificent animals. They are very similar in so many ways. I think Copperheads are under-rated by most keepers for some reason. Add a decent water feature to your enclosure and it really brings out the best in them.

Cheers,
Blue

 

[GeckoJosh]

RBBS don't always have dark black heads

 

[Bluetongue1]

RBBS don't always have dark black heads either

Do you have a photo to support that claim because in my experience it is only the snout or RBBs that are lighter.