croc hunting poll

[Bakes]

Aussiesnakelover,
Your not worthless for having an opinion. Good on you in fact. I'm a hunter and I have my own thoughts on certain things. Some of those arn't to popular on this site but I will always defend my opinion AND I will also listen to other's opinion (if its well thought out and rational ). What I do urge you to do is not to dismiss hunting but do some research on the matter. If then you still think its a crap idea then no worries, stick to your guns :wink:

 

[waruikazi]

Bakes do you think that there will be enough people in australia wanting to do this?

 

[pythontamer]

hi there i think the whole thing is wrong i am a full blown reptile enthusiest and wheather it be a gekko or a 20ft croc it should be left alone as they where here first and who are we to say that we should be allowed to kill them and get away with it. We as human beings should be looking out for our reptile conterparts. On the other hand if a croc kills a person we cant blame the croc as it is only doing what comes naturally and the people/person that goes into a crocodile habitat should be educated on the dos and donts when heading into the far north of our great country. those who agree with me and want to disscuss this more feel free to message me thanks for your time

 

[pythontamer]

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[waruikazi]

Pythontamer i think you will find all of us consider ourselves full blown reptile enthusiasts. There is very little difference between croc hunting and fishing in terms of impact to the environment and animals numbers, infact croc hunting, in the way it is being proposed will have less effect on the environment. Saying that this type of hunting should not be done because you like reptiles is pretty naive and selfish IMO. So far, from the limited reading that i have done on this topic, that is basically the only argument against croc hunting that has been presented.

 

[cris]

Bakes do you think that there will be enough people in australia wanting to do this?

well that guy in the article will have to find them or else he will need a new hat and possibly surgery :lol:
If 16% of ppl here want a stuffed croc i think its just a matter of if ppl are willing to pay that much when they could just go and do it illegally.

 

[pythontamer]

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[aussiesnakelover]

Pythontamer i think you will find all of us consider ourselves full blown reptile enthusiasts. There is very little difference between croc hunting and fishing in terms of impact to the environment and animals numbers, infact croc hunting, in the way it is being proposed will have less effect on the environment. Saying that this type of hunting should not be done because you like reptiles is pretty naive and selfish IMO. So far, from the limited reading that i have done on this topic, that is basically the only argument against croc hunting that has been presented

but the thing is they arnt eating the croc are they, they are killing it to feel big, i killed this man eater look at me roar :roll: , otherwise it wouldnt be called a trophy, most fisherman eat their catch or let it go and i dont believe they use guns,
but a good idea would be to have laws similar to fishing, with size limits and catch limits etc if it goes ahead
if we didnt have these illegal fisherman in our water it wouldnt be so bad :evil:

Bakes
most hunters in the NT are shooting pests, such as pigs and baffalo or even some bored kids with a 22 or air rifle hunting cane toads hehe, i dont mind if you shoot these as long as u have a good aim and are quick to re-fire because there is no need to make them suffer

i have read a bit on this matter but not too much, but i am still looking for some FACTUAl writing

 

[cris]

but the thing is they arnt eating the croc are they, they are killing it to feel big, i killed this man eater look at me roar

this just proves you have absolutely no idea :roll: and i dont see whats stopping the croc being used for food.

most fisherman eat their catch or let it go and i dont believe they use guns,

so your problem is the guns? maybe they should be using massive shark hooks and get them that way, that would be much better than humanely killing them with a gun, hmm i can see your point :lol:

 

[waruikazi]

Wether they are being eaten or not, so long as it is sustainable and is done humanely.

 

[Bakes]

Waruikazi , There will be some Aussie that can afford this. Not many however. Most interest will come from the states and europe. I don't know about the $20,000 price tag however. You can go to Africa and hunt a nile croc for about $1-2000. The interest will come from the fact that they havn't been hunted for a long time.

Another thing to think about. Perhaps trophy hunting will stop the illegal hunting taking place on rivers like the Daly.

 

[theplantguys]

can of worms this topic, but here’s my 2 cents worth as well

Farming, no problems - professional, humane, job and product creating, purposeful (ie farmed animals would not be alive if not breed for this purpose, eg same as farmed cow, pigs etc .)

Wild kills I don’t think is fair in some way and in other it is. They were here first (and have been for sometime) but then its survival of the fittest, sure we are going into their area so they should defend it, but then humans attack back, history shows it, right or wrong. I would hope a relocation program could be developed, it would be expensive and time consuming vs straight out culling wild crocs, but much better for the animals, I would also think if it was relocation there would be less poaching, for example if culling was to happen I would hope it was by licensed hunters, as mentioned before similar to fishing, size, bag limits etc., you will always have people not obey the law and if culling is picked there would be more poachers than now (don’t know but I am sure it happens). They are high in the food chain and have got limited predators and an ample supply of food, they will only grow in numbers and when their natural food runs out they will have to look for some other source, and if we are in their area, well, its only natural. I think there is a future issues here that is only going to get worse unless something is done, I just hope what ever is done is in the best interest of both us and them.

I guess what I am saying is I am a fence sitter, love the crocs but there is a growing concern for safety of both. Personally would prefer if we got out of their way but this is not going to happen as people are not that smart. Just hope whatever is done is humane.

 

[waruikazi]

Culling isn't really the topic here. WHat the NT government want to do is legalise safari hunting, this is different to culling in that it is not about controlling numbers. Currently we do have relocation programs, which work to an extent but generally the wild caught animals are placed into farms for breeding stock.

Crocodile numbers in the NT don't need controlling but they probably could handle limited hunting (i say probably because i have not researched this topic) so the NT govt wants to make some money off this potential resource.