crocs in vic?

[smillies.snakes]

Can victorians keep crocs salt or fresh?
If yes what sort of rules are involved any help would be greatly appreciated.

regards smillie

 

[Brown_Hair]

Code of practice for the welfare of animals - Private keeping of reptiles (Victoria)

AG1134​

Bureau of Animal Welfare, Attwood
October 2003

3.1.5. Crocodiles

a)For small specimens (up to 25 cm total length), up to two specimens can be maintained in an enclosure measuring 60 cm long x 30 cm wide x 30 cm high.b)For all specimens, the pond must be at least twice the length of the largest specimen and have a width at least as great as the length of the largest specimenc)The pool must be deep enough for the largest specimen to submerge completely and swim freely.d)An additional area of dry land must be provided, which is at least as long and wide as the length of the largest specimen, and which has a basking site with a temperature of 30–33C.e)It is recommended that only crocodiles up to a total length of 2.5 m are kept. Applications to keep larger specimens should be considered on a case-by-case basis.

 

[rubysnake]

heyy yess im almost certian we can have both, definitely salties and i presume freshies.im not sure on the rules your looking for.. like enclosures etc. im looking at getting a croc in about 6months time... you need the specialized licence (not sure of the name), it cost more for a basic licence and you just apply for it and send it away.. ReptilianGuy has a salty he's in vic his croc is a really cute little fellow ReptilianGuy really helpful and informative maybe pm if you need other more specific answers.

 

[smillies.snakes]

thank you brown_hair answers pretty much everything i was gonna ask


are there any victorians on here that keep crocs and can i see pics of people enclosures

 

[Southern_Forest_Drag]

you need the specialized licence (not sure of the name), it cost more for a basic licence and you just apply for it and send it away.

Advanced License
We can have both.

 

[rubysnake]

Advanced License

cheers im so stupid sometimes.:lol: i hate when you know what it is but you cant think of it!!!

 

[smillies.snakes]

thank you rubysnakes and Southern_forest_drag muchly appreciated ill try and get on to ReptilianGuy

 

[Brown_Hair]

Check this thread out from ReptilianGuy discussing his enclosure... http://www.aussiepythons.com/forum/general-herps-42/saltwater-croc-enclosure-115535

 

[ReptilianGuy]

yeah, it's only an Advanced license needed in VIC to keep both types of crocodiles... bloody sweet reptiles to keep and own.
haha and cheers Ruby . the advanced licence cost from $47-$175 non concession. this depends on the month you apply for the permit... being july you'll be looking at the $175 dollar mark
here is the schedule and permit application link.. hope it helps
http://www.dse.vic.gov.au/CA256F310...pplication+for+a+Private+Wildlife+Licence.pdf

 

[smillies.snakes]

reptilianguy what do you plan on keeping yours in when he gets bigger and thanks for the info

 

[ReptilianGuy]

similar thing to mckellar's idea in saltwater croc enclosure . in a shed with a pond in it, and lighting for heat... and a big power bill it'll be cost effective and still everything the croc needs to.. got plenty of time to work it out before it gets to any size like that and to set up something as well...

 

[Reptilia]

croc tub

These tubs are great for crocs. You can get them from petpacific and a few nurseries. Just make a lid for the top which also holds your heating and lighting and add a filter, pump and heater into the water aswell as a few logs for the croc to bask on.

RECTANGULAR POND - Giant - PA20
Triple Strength Reinforcing
175cm x 120cm x 60cm deep - 1260 litres

 

[snakehandler]

The tubs you mention are great until your croc is about 1.2 meters, then you need bigger. The code of practice is a guideline not a set of rules, however they do detail the minimum space required, not the average. Both Fresh and Salt water crocodiles can be kept, if you want to keep one for a long time go the freshie, it is slower growing and smaller in over all size, a saltie will need a much larger enclosure within about 3-4 years. Our 4 year old croc is about 1.8m and needs plenty of space.

Also remember that there is the statement that specimens over 2m should be dconsidered on a case by case basis, this statement is just a guide for DSE, not for the keeper, there is no record of the size of your crocodile, DSE will not know the size unless they visit! In Vic there is NO size restriction.

 

[smillies.snakes]

cheers guys and girls for all the answers now to talk the old folks into it, could be fun the snakes and lizards are growing on them this might just take a bit

 

[Travisty]

I thought Salt Water Crocodiles stopped being referred to as salties years ago because they don't just live in salt water and people thought they could swim in rivers without fear of being attacked. The correct name is Estuarine Crocodile.

 

[snakehandler]

Travisty, Estuarine would then infer that fresh water would be safe from these crocodiles too, there for under the same logic you cannot call them Estuarine crocodiles either. Neither name is technically correct, that is why there is scientific names of animals, common names can be misleading!