Frog Water question

[JoshMVG]

Do you no if chloromide can b removed from aging/sunning
also is there a filter you could reccomend that does not need to b in the water and can sit outside the tank
?

 

[booboomoomoo]

no u need to use a water ager and why waste time with sitting water out in the sun for a week when u can use a good quality water ager like prime and use the water straight away. Down in south u might not need water ager as they might not dose the water with the same chemicals as us up in sydney as for water changes i do mine every 2 to 3 weeks and my frogs r happy as they wont shut up but i do mist the plants in there tank everyday but i do use purigen in my filter to keep my water crystal clear

 

[garycahill]

The end result after using water ager is aged water.
If you age your water, you will end up with the same thing, aged water.
One is instant & the other takes time.
I have the time & the room to do it & I strongly dissagree with adding chemicles to a frogs enviroment.
This is my belief, not everyone has it or has to agree.
I have had great success with breeding frogs using my methods, including endangered species.
My collection of tanks containing water would mean that the stuff the pet stores are peddling would cost me around $15 per week, on top of everything else.
I don't see why I need to keep someone in a job when nature is there to do it for me.

 

[cris]

I just leave tap water for a few days or use rain water. Water straight from the tap is toxic to tadpoles and frogs.

 

[booboomoomoo]

id say if it works for u stick to it but me personally i feel safer using water ager as the waterboard does not have to tell u what, when or how much chemical they add to the water. And i have seen half an aquariums breeding stock of african cichlids wiped out because they aged there water in barrels an had so for years and then sydney water added chloromon to the supply an goodbye thousands of dollars worth of fish

 

[garycahill]

Work out what 873 Growling Grass Frogs (Litoria raniformis) @ $40 each comes to.
Cichlids are replacable, captive ranis arn't, they are also quite endangered in their native enviroment.
I was approached by NPWS so they could copy my method.
If you keep an eye out on scales for tails magazine in the next issue or so, you will see my article on this.
You are right, stick with what works for you, but don't discredit what someone else is doing because it is different.
If we all did the same thing, captive husbandry wouldn't improve.

 

[JoshMVG]

Thanks guys
I think a non chemical approach is the go
Im going to contact the local water authorities and find out exactly what goes in my water
And if it does contain chloromide (i think thats what its called)
Try and find out the best way to remove it, (hopefully gary's method does) using chemicals as a last resort
I also would like to know if their is anyway to sterilize water for chytrid other than boiling?

 

[garycahill]

Boiling is the only method that I am aware of, there may be some other method though.
Why are you so concerned about chytrid? Have you had an outbreak before?
A death from chytrid is very easy to identify, from what I have seen
If you are not introducing new frogs to a shared enviroment, the risk is very small.
I have never had a outbreak of chytrid, even with frogs which are highly prone to it.
There would be other issues that I would be concerned about first.

 

[JoshMVG]

Boiling is the only method that I am aware of, there may be some other method though.
Why are you so concerned about chytrid? Have you had an outbreak before?
A death from chytrid is very easy to identify, from what I have seen
If you are not introducing new frogs to a shared enviroment, the risk is very small.
I have never had a outbreak of chytrid, even with frogs which are highly prone to it.
There would be other issues that I would be concerned about first.

The main reason that im concerned about chytrid is that when i got my frogs of my friend he said that there were cases of frogs thought to have chytrid in our local water supply dams
He said that boiling was the only way to make sure you dont get it from any water source and to always do it
this ritual of constantly having my kettle on ( i dont drink tea or coffee)
is becoming tedious so i was hoping that someone had come up with an easier way
or if anyone had any problems not boiling it
Thanks Gary i know that im sounding like a worry wart but my friends reputation in the NSW frog communitity gives his advice a great deal of credibility

 

[garycahill]

Im not having a shot at you Josh, it's just that it has come up a bit lately & I haven't heard of an outbreak in captive animals at least.
That's not to say there isn't one, more of a curiosity thing really.
I was always led to believe that chlorine kills chytrid.
If anyone can prove or dispute this, I would love to hear from you as I don't have any evidence to support this other that reading it on ARC's website.
I was referring to boiling for sterilisation of non treated water, not treated water.
There are other products available for the sterilisation of implements, shoes, etc, but I am not sure with water.

 

[JoshMVG]

Thanks Gary
Yeah if i could find actual evidence myself i would have a need to ask these questions
I also would love to see some evidence of some kind that answers my queries
maybe ill try looking overseas where they have had more experience with chytrid
Thanks Gary u have been very helpful by responding to all my posts and telling me about your barrel technique

 

[garycahill]

If you contact Gerry at ARC www.frogs.org.au he will be able to answer any questions about chytrid, or get them at least.
I don't know if overseas is the answer, it doesn't seem to affect their species like ours.

 

[JoshMVG]

If you contact Gerry at ARC www.frogs.org.au he will be able to answer any questions about chytrid, or get them at least.
I don't know if overseas is the answer, it doesn't seem to affect their species like ours.

Thanks