GTF attacked. Help !

[TWENTY B]

bait stealing mungrel birds.

 

[fritzi2009]

ibis' are feral as though... it's kind of heartless if you didnt save the GTF... i would have done the same thing . hope he's all okay

 

[ajdixon]

i hate dump birds haha. good work saving the frog. the poor things are rare enough as it is. i'm sure the "poor" ibis will find a meal somewhere else. they're not fussy eaters. they are however disgusting and a pest.

 

[JasonL]

ibis' are feral as though... it's kind of heartless if you didnt save the GTF... i would have done the same thing . hope he's all okay

Hope you mean "feral" as "you don't like them" as they are native to Australia..... personally I like them, but I also like Noisy Miners and Currawongs.. Vote 1 for the "survivors".

 

[PhilK]

Ibises may be gross, but they are neither pests nor feral. They are a part of the food chain, just as your precious frog is.. They are just higher. If that frog was being eaten by a carpet python or a red belly, I wonder if they would have gone to the effort of saving it?

Looks like a broken spine or something... I think the vet will just put it down to be honest, but they might give it a shot.. Then they can release it so it can be eaten by something else..

PS all of those who think its heartless to let an ibis eat a frog or watch a lion eat an antelope... you realise you're all hypocrites seeing as you throw live crickets to frogs and lizards right?

ajdixon: I wouldn't really call GTFs rare.. Not where I am anyway

 

[fritzi2009]

lolinggg.. nar i meant feral as in i dont like them theyre scummy birds.. yeah well crickets are bred by people specifically to be food for our reptiles... GTF's arent... anyway hes asking for help on what to do to make sure the frogs alrght. he doesnt care wether we think its right or wrong if he saved it.

 

[ajdixon]

and i do mean pests as in they eat all your food off the table when you're trying to have a picnic haha

 

[ajdixon]

where i am GTFs can hardly be found. aren't they protected also? and i dont have a problem with animals eating other animals at all. ibis eat EVERYTHING though. i'm sure the ibis will be fine sourcing more food.

 

[Snakes1]

well its natures way so should of been left to the ibis to finish it ,
but to be perfectly honest if i was there i would have struggled not to have also tried to save the frog.

 

[TahneeMaree]

I don't see too much harm in saving the little guy, we HAVE done alot of damage to the frogs numbers, and the ibis are still thriving sooo it may/maynot harm the individual ibis to take a frog from it, but should that frog be a female and it breeds next season, thats more frogs to help undo what we have done to them

 

[JAS101]

it should have been left with the Ibis , shoulda woulda coulda dont mean anything now .
i wonder what the legal grounds are on a injured animal being taken out of the wild [ well taken from the Ibis that was going to have a meal ] ?
like would it be just a fine or a warrning ? ..

 

[ajdixon]

shouldnt be a penalty if it's handed over to the correct people and released back into the wild surely? just like if you find an injured lizard etc.

 

[reptilemanor]

There is no fine for taking an injured animal from the wild to help it, as long as it is handed over to an apropriate wildlife carer. I know this because I am one, I agree in the cycle of nature and some animals have to be eaten for others to survive, I mean are we going to breed food animals, euthanise them humanly, then go looking for the wild aniamls to eat them so they don't have to hunt!?! What I guess I'm saying is that to save an animal from being eaten we may make another animal starve. However if the animal is injured due to human cause, or it species existance is in danger because of us, we have a duty of care to do something about it.
I can see the point of both sides of the discussion.
Plus I get to see a great variety of reptiles and educate people on the benefit of their existance by being a rescuer/carer.
I also have my private collection of reptiles to play with.

 

[Poggle]

lol poor ibis.. all that hard hunting work just to lose his lunch... but also poor froggy... as said alot of the time frogs do heal quick. i would make sure he remains moist enough... i wouldnt offer any food straight away. give him the chance to de stress a bit then maybe offer him something.. would be a good idea to seek info from vet or froggy person but

 

[Scotty_C]

I heard from the vets today and unfortunately he had to be put down, had a broken leg and because they rely on there back legs it could not be saved.


Scotty


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[waruikazi]

I heard from the vets today and unfortunately he had to be put down, had a broken leg and because they rely on there back legs it could not be saved.


Scotty


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Sounds like a lazy vet to me not wanting to put the time in. Green frogs don't rely on their back legs, they are an ambush predator and can survive and do reasonably well without full use of their back legs. What a waste of a meal.

 

[Bluetonguejo]

On a better note..Atleast you took him to the vet and did'nt just toss him
I found one that all its skin had been really badly burnt from ice frost he was found in a big ice machine vendor he looked dead. His poor little skin was black. I took him home & after a few months he looked as good as new. They are very hearty little fellas.
This is him here -back from the dead lol

 

[RedEyeGirl]

What an awesome pic. Sorry about little frog though, i would have done the same thing. I don't really like ibis'.

 

[PhilK]

where i am GTFs can hardly be found. aren't they protected also?

Protection laws don't apply to the animal's natural predators...

Told you it would be a waste of time.. normal vets are pretty useless when it comes to helping injured wildlife. If you'd left it with the ibis, its suffering would have been over much quicker than waiting for the vet to see it... Oh well

 

[Waterrat]

Nature is all about life and death. Get over it!