is there any way to inflate these eggs

[candycaine]

thanx but I kind of gave up as soon as I saw the state they are in when I got her off of them in if they will or won't survive. but I will keep them in there till day 70 just in case if not then at least I won't do that again...everything that I've been through and these eggs I meen I won't do again. yeah I know theres no marks but what I couldn't remove easy stayed in clumps. and no I didn't tip any. thanx for the advice and thanx for a laugh but at least new people just starting out will look at this and know that breeding isn't that simple.

 

[candycaine]

at this point I really couldn't care if people are being a smart *** or not all I care about at this point in time after I know I've stuffed up something shocking this year is if you have a sence of humour after all I've put you through.

and thanx for sticking up for me anyways Blondesnakelover its nice that you care.

as for kris I think I'm used to it by now and just take it as a funny little joke. I think next time I won't ask so many questions and just buy that book I was told about. and hope to dear god I get it right next time.

 

[Vixen]

He was being kinda crap though. A lot of people in this thread are.

She's (candycaine) allowed to ask questions, it's better to ask a stupid question than to screw up significantly.
If he has a problem with her asking so many questions he should just simply ignore her and let somebody else a little more tolerant help out.

I don't see anywhere in this thread asking for sarcastic comments, and personally I don't like the fact that when someone that's new to this is asking for help they are treated so poorly.

Maybe if the people here were more friendly and helpful to newcomers this great hobby would expand. Imagine how many people have lost pets because whenever they ask for help on here they are treated like this. I know I'd give up on asking here if I was.

Not trying to make enemies here, I just think that it's low to be so harsh to people asking for your help. Don't kick a someone when they're down, you don't have to help them up, but don't make it worse.

True, but when nearly the exact same thing has happened TWO seasons in a row now, I think being 'new' doesnt quite cover this.

I don't know the full story myself, but if she had the knowledge from last season to know what went wrong, she should have been able to fix it this time around, it seems she wasn't quite prepared once again. This season has actually gone more downhill, if I remember she did have one surviving hatchy from last year.

If the heat is a problem, she could have invested in a portable aircon to run just while the eggs are incubating, invest in a proper incubator, and at least have the knowledge of how to mix up a proper ratio of verm/water, or whatever her chosen substrate was. If she didn't have a scale to weigh this, then once again she should have spent a little money to go and get one? They are $15-$20, not much of an outlay considering its for the well being of potentially hundreds of dollars worth of snakes.

It may have been something else entirely out of her control, I don't know, but it just seems funny this has happened two seasons in a row. I actually feel quite sorry for the mother snake having to go through all that for nothing, and the unhatched eggs.

 

[naledge]

True, but when nearly the exact same thing has happened TWO seasons in a row now, I think being 'new' doesnt quite cover this.

I don't know the full story myself, but if she had the knowledge from last season to know what went wrong, she should have been able to fix it this time around, it seems she wasn't quite prepared once again.

If the heat is a problem, she could have invested in a portable aircon to run just while the eggs are incubating, invest in a proper incubator, and at least have the knowledge of how to mix up a proper ratio of verm/water, or whatever her chosen substrate was. If she didn't have a scale to weigh this, then once again she should have spent a little money to go and get one? Theyre are $15-$20.

It may have been something else entirely out of her control, I don't know, but it just seems funny this has happened two seasons in a row. I actually feel quite sorry for the mother snake having to go through all that for nothing, and the unhatched eggs.

I see your point, but still, nobody was hurt so people shouldn't make fun of her.
And I don't think the mother would care, usually the eggs are taken away anyway, so pretty much every time a snake breeds in captivity it's for nothing.

 

[Vixen]

I see your point, but still, nobody was hurt so people shouldn't make fun of her.
And I don't think the mother would care, usually the eggs are taken away anyway, so pretty much every time a snake breeds in captivity it's for nothing.

But something was hurt, the hatchies. :lol: Poor tikes. I realise the mum wouldn't particularly care if the eggs were taken (emotionally) but they do pace uncontrollably if you don't wash them/the enclosure down after the eggs are taken. I know my female did, I had to rewash twice as I musn't have got all the scent away.

But just to put her body through that aswell when you know deep down you arent really ready for the eggs is the wrong thing to do imo.

 

[JasonL]

About the only thing you can do now is start learning how to set yourself up for next season, join a herp group (they have one in Darwin eh? ), meet as many people as you can, possibly get them to incubate the eggs for you, even if it costs you half the clutch (thats will still work out better than the last two years combined ) The best thing you can do for yourself (and anyone else in this hobby) is to network with other herpers and learn off each other... and I don't mean via the internet, as some things, like mixing vermiculite for instance, has to be shown first hand.. Best of luck with next season...

 

[wokka]

Candycaine, get it right next year and you will still produce about the same as in the wild. I doubt that more than 1 in three eggs hatch in the wild after dingoes, insects rats etc have their go. Good on you for going public so others can learn! Gordo up there seems to have a bit of experience with incubation. I have never met him but it seems he'll do anything for a beer or two!

 

[redbellybite]

YOU KNOW WHAT CANDYCAINE ...regardless of what has happened , still ya just never know ,the outcome doesnt look good, but there may be just a single off chance ,so dont give up, if you can pull one of the rabbits out of the hat ....that would be awsome ..You have learnt a few lessons ,and as OXY says ,at least you have had the BALLS to put up your stuff ups ..unlike alot on here ,who would never want to show that side of human failure..unless they got a 100% success rate ,they wouldnt dare declare the amount of non offspring ratio ..so my hats off to you LADY, and keep us posted

 

[Herc]

Candycaine dont give up, funny enough i have seen worse eggs hatch from situations than yours. sadly the chance of them hatching ins't great but there is still a chance. you'll now intime. One way I have used in the past to re inflate eggs(for friends) like those is to add a couple of containers with water in them into the incubation tub, once the eggs were back to normal size and shape these were removed. The eggs went on to successfully hatch for both lizards and pythons. So keep cooking them and see what happens. good luck and let us know how they go.

 

[FAY]

The eggs don't look very good to me...but then you never know!
Hopefully you would of learnt a few things and taken on board helpful info for next year.
It is all trial an error, but make sure you have the essential things that you need e.g a decent set of scales.