Lizards vs frogs vs turtles
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i'm not a big fan of changing water and making sure PH levels and stuff are perfect, so i say LIZARDS!!!
(beardies in particular,...)
Yes you do need to do water changes but a decent filter means that you don't have to do this as often.
I have a peice of limestone in my tank so that keeps the PH at a good level. You can also get PH buffers that keep the PH at the right level without having to guess.
The only other thing they need is a calcium block, they cost around $2 each and last a few months.
How often do you have to clean out your lizards enclosure?
i go all out with my lizards, tehy all get a bath every morning so they never poo in their tank,...so i dont really clean it, just sift the sand occasionally (btw, my dragons do have tank access, btu prefer to run around the loungeroom so tehyre not really in it much)
its not that i mind doing stiuff, i just found having to take care of 'water' too hard, admittedly it was a salt water fish tank with heaps of live rock so the nitrates/nitrites just blew out and stuff started dying, so i gave the surviving fish to the shop and vowed never to deal with water again.
teh snake and gecko tanks get cleaned when they poo, with full sand changes for the gex every couple of months,. full newspaper changes every time the snakes poo.
its not that i mind doing stiuff, i just found having to take care of 'water' too hard, admittedly it was a salt water fish tank with heaps of live rock so the nitrates/nitrites just blew out and stuff started dying, so i gave the surviving fish to the shop and vowed never to deal with water again.
teh snake and gecko tanks get cleaned when they poo, with full sand changes for the gex every couple of months,. full newspaper changes every time the snakes poo.
fair enough, its still harder to 'get right' than air.
as i said, i'm not a big fan of water changes and having to make sure the waters right, so MY PERSONAL preference would be lizards, for that reason.
i think turtles are really cute and wish they didnt like water!
i've heard too many probs about frogs and fungus which has turned me off keeping them.
as i said, i'm not a big fan of water changes and having to make sure the waters right, so MY PERSONAL preference would be lizards, for that reason.
i think turtles are really cute and wish they didnt like water!
i've heard too many probs about frogs and fungus which has turned me off keeping them.
i think turtles are really cute and wish they didnt like water!
try a tortise then
Really here is nothing to water changes
You syphine the water out of the tank getting the bits on the bottom of the tank
You fill up a clean bucket with luke warm water - add some declorinator into it, add some PH buffer and you add that to the tank. Done
I am not arguing your point as that is your preference, just letting others know that is doesn't have to be as bad as you say it is
the.badger
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I kept fish for along time and had nothing but dramas too, Chris. Having said that, salt water is a LOT harder than fresh water and is not really an option where we live, but even fresh water can get messy if you don't stay on top of it (ie. if you go away for 2 weeks). So I'm not a huge fan of keeping water dwellers... but I'm not a huge fan of keeping lizards either... So I'd prefer to go with the easier option.
We're in a part of VIC that's pretty strict with water restrictions too - would that apply to a large turtle tank or what? I know ponds and pools (even kiddie pools) are a no-no.
We're in a part of VIC that's pretty strict with water restrictions too - would that apply to a large turtle tank or what? I know ponds and pools (even kiddie pools) are a no-no.
herptrader
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Pythons are a lot less work in a sense but the work is more... fiddly as you are dealing with thawing rodents of the right size etc.
I love our accies. They are fed every few days on feeder roaches dusted with calcium. They also require very little effort. The are fantastic to watch and do not mind being handled.
We also have some blue tongues which live (mostly) outside in an enclosed court yard. After food and water there is nothing they require. Because we have a pond in the courtyard they share their space with some long necked turtles. The only issue with keeping animals like this outside in Melbourne is that they hibernate for about half the year. (A lacy could also be kept outside in Melbourne in an aviary once they are big enough ... say around 2 years old.)
You have lots of choices. It depends a bit on what you are happy to do etc.
I love our accies. They are fed every few days on feeder roaches dusted with calcium. They also require very little effort. The are fantastic to watch and do not mind being handled.
We also have some blue tongues which live (mostly) outside in an enclosed court yard. After food and water there is nothing they require. Because we have a pond in the courtyard they share their space with some long necked turtles. The only issue with keeping animals like this outside in Melbourne is that they hibernate for about half the year. (A lacy could also be kept outside in Melbourne in an aviary once they are big enough ... say around 2 years old.)
You have lots of choices. It depends a bit on what you are happy to do etc.
the.badger
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Oh noes, I'm not good with choices...
Daniel1234 - Ahh so that's what kids are for!
Daniel1234 - Ahh so that's what kids are for!
Badger - Ackies are a great choice - extremely active and entertaining...
I, personally, find Beardies to be quite a boring captive. In saying that they are more amenable to handling than Monitor species. Ackies are better than most, but as has been said, they are always moving and certainly won't perch on your shirt
...and anyone claiming that turtles are more intelligent than lizards has never kept Monitors
I would recommend ANY of the smaller Monitor species, however, Ackies sound like they would suit your other half well. They look great and are awesome captives, bulletproof to keep and you could sit there all day watching them...
I, personally, find Beardies to be quite a boring captive. In saying that they are more amenable to handling than Monitor species. Ackies are better than most, but as has been said, they are always moving and certainly won't perch on your shirt
...and anyone claiming that turtles are more intelligent than lizards has never kept Monitors
I would recommend ANY of the smaller Monitor species, however, Ackies sound like they would suit your other half well. They look great and are awesome captives, bulletproof to keep and you could sit there all day watching them...
gonff
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i agree with aslan!
pygmy mulga monitors a great also
pygmy mulga monitors a great also
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