My Enclosure set up. please advise

[3one3rd]

Hey all,

I've finally finished my Enclosure and just recieved my licence yesterday, i'm so excited now as i can finally go choose my beardie! but before that i hope to show you guys my enclosure set up and wondering if you guys can give me some advise and feed back, as now i'm testing the temp, the size of the tank is 90cm W x 53cm L x 45cm D, i'm using a 30" reptisun 10.0 uvb flo tube, and for the basking light i'm using the Repti One solar Flare Heater on 50W. i bought some thermometers and one of those digital one with the probe and tested the heat under the heater. it seems to not reach 40c mark. unless where the point closest to the light which is the top of the vine area. and the rock that i place underneath only reaches around 32c, and the clooler side reaches around 25c-27c. so im wondering if these temp hot enough for my beardie or do i need the basking rock to actually reaches 40c +?? also please let me know what you guys think bout the set up?

 

[JAS101]

i dont think its hot enough , the basking area needs to be 36+ degrees .
do u have the light [ heat/basking light] controled by a thermostat?
is that sand being used as a floor substrate ?

 

[3one3rd]

ok, no the heat basking lighting is not controlled by a thermostat, should i need one? and thats paper towel as the floor substrate. how does a thermostat work exactly?

i dont think its hot enough , the basking area needs to be 36+ degrees .
do u have the light [ heat/basking light] controled by a thermostat?
is that sand being used as a floor substrate ?

 

[Lovemydragons]

Basically, thermostat will push the temp up to your set temp, so say between 36-40 degrees. When it reaches that temp near the thermostat it will turn your heating off until the temp drops to a certain temp and then up again it goes. Safetey precaution so temps never get too hot, or too cold!

 

[bpb02]

thermos work by either shutting off the power supply or by dimming your power supply to a certain device, in your case it would shut down your basking light when the temp reached say 40 and would turn on again when your temp drops below. very basic it is what your fridge uses air con ect ect

i wouldn't recommend running any heating device without a thermo as you may cook your loved one

 

[3one3rd]

i see, but by raising the themostat, would it put out more heat? or its just the same amount of heat rather how long it stays on till it reaches the temp? coz atm my temp around the area where i place the rock only reaches around 30c, only closer to the light source its gets higher 30s. even if i get a thermostat. it still wouldnt change the temp level around the bottom area of the lighting spot rather just the surrounding temp since the thermostat doenst change the heat output of the light? do you guys think i should just give up the heat/basking light and buy one of those dome lamp with 100W? so that way the temp may be higher?

 

[JAS101]

the thermostat will only control the "up to temp" being that your 50wt is only geting to 30c in hot spot then it would need to be changed to a 100wt globe.
in my 4ft x4ft beardie enclosure i have a 100wt on full time and a 100wt on a thermostat to reach the 38c in the basking area . once the temp go`s above 37c one turns off , once the temp is at about 34c the light comes back on .

 

[3one3rd]

ohh i see, thank you so much, that clears it up for me, the problem now is the heat/ligting unit its a max 50w, cant change to a 100Wt globe :cry: should u suggest i get one more those 30wt heat/light fan? or maybe just place a normal globe hanging from the mesh on the top? or can a thermostats runs on two heat/fan?

the thermostat will only control the "up to temp" being that your 50wt is only geting to 30c in hot spot then it would need to be changed to a 100wt globe.
in my 4ft x4ft beardie enclosure i have a 100wt on full time and a 100wt on a thermostat to reach the 38c in the basking area . once the temp go`s above 37c one turns off , once the temp is at about 34c the light comes back on .

 

[D3pro]

I agree with it not been hot enough, my enclosure reaches 36+ and my jungle hangs under it all day, it's getting cold now so proper heating in important. Just one thing to keep in mind of course... a reptile will die from cold temperatures in a few weeks, but it will die from hot temperatures in a few hours... keep that in mind at all times.

Other then that your enclosure is tops!

 

[3one3rd]

Thank you D3pro! been spending the last 2-3 weeks on it. really glad i finally got it to the last step and just got my licence yesterday! now the only part is the temp/lighting, not quite sure whats the best way to get the heat up, whether i should just give up the heat/lighting unit and just replace one wif the dome lamp thats 100wt or just buy another lamp and place next to it? lol...its hardd...and costing

and thanks heaps i will keep those info inmind

I agree with it not been hot enough, my enclosure reaches 36+ and my jungle hangs under it all day, it's getting cold now so proper heating in important. Just one thing to keep in mind of course... a reptile will die from cold temperatures in a few weeks, but it will die from hot temperatures in a few hours... keep that in mind at all times.

Other then that your enclosure is tops!

 

[bpb02]

100 watt bulb or a ceramic heat globe would probs do the trick my ceramic globe gets bloody hot. but yeh might need uv light which i no nothing about as womas don't need uv

 

[3one3rd]

yea maybe i should just try with one of those 100wt bulb, i have a uvb flo light tube in the top of the enclosure. its the basking area thats i'm having trouble with.

QUOTE=bpb02;1655107]100 watt bulb or a ceramic heat globe would probs do the trick my ceramic globe gets bloody hot. but yeh might need uv light which i no nothing about as womas don't need uv[/QUOTE]

 

[bpb02]

well for basking it doesnt need light radiation just heat isnt the right. so there for you could run a ceramic globe i would be thinking as long as you have your uv coming from a different source.

i may be wrong but my ceramic globe is great

 

[3one3rd]

Yep i would think so, haha i'm new to this . the ceramic globe you mention are the ones with the dome surrounding and have a ceramic end right? and do i just use a normal 100wt bulb like the ones you can get from hardware store like bunnings etc or the ones from the reptile store?

well for basking it doesnt need light radiation just heat isnt the right. so there for you could run a ceramic globe i would be thinking as long as you have your uv coming from a different source.

i may be wrong but my ceramic globe is great

 

[JAS101]

where abouts in melb are u in?
i dont think a ceramic heat emitter would be good for this , as the beardies need more then just the heat .
id go with the sunglo range of reptile bulb with a ceramic light socket [ as the plastic ones will melt with anything over 70wts] and shroud , all up should be about $50

 

[lizardjasper]

Personally, I think your set up is fine how it is. If it reaches 40c under the light on the vine, and 32c on the rock beneath, then your beardie can choose what heat he wants on the way in between them. Looking at the set up though, I think it could do with some more greenery. Beardies, especially babies, love to hide in amongst leaves and climb up the walls on vines.
I'd also suggest that you write on a sticker and place somewhere on the setup when you installed the light (month, year) so that you know exactly when to replace it once a year has passed. Just something I do that makes life easier!
What type of beardie are you going to get? Normal, yellow, red? Eastern perhaps?

 

[3one3rd]

I live near north east of melb, Thornbury. i usually go to the reptile shop on Bell street. the coburg aquarium. im not sure if they have the sunglo rang reptile bulb u mention. hopefully they do. do u have a picture of what they look like?

where abouts in melb are u in?
i dont think a ceramic heat emitter would be good for this , as the beardies need more then just the heat .
id go with the sunglo range of reptile bulb with a ceramic light socket [ as the plastic ones will melt with anything over 70wts] and shroud , all up should be about $50

 

[JAS101]

heres one , ::Reptile One::
Day Light Heat Globe
2nd last from bottom page .

 

[3one3rd]

Really!? i originally thought the same as you do as i'm not sure how a beardie would really behave on whether they know where the spot they should bask under. i was worried he might not climb up the vine and just sit on the rock and not realise its not hot enough for him. hmm.... now i'm kinda not sure whether i should get another bulb.

oh thank you for the advise on the greenery, i will certainly get more around the wall and vine area soon. and i will write the date and month for my ligting tonite !

i really wish i can get a yellow one. thats my fav color and i saw some really bright ones from the states, hopefully i can find one in victoria. i'm planning to go see john - dixilizard hopefully sumtime next week. hope i can find my baby beardie there!

not sure bout the differences btween earntern and central etc tho....they all looks awesome cute to me!!!

Personally, I think your set up is fine how it is. If it reaches 40c under the light on the vine, and 32c on the rock beneath, then your beardie can choose what heat he wants on the way in between them. Looking at the set up though, I think it could do with some more greenery. Beardies, especially babies, love to hide in amongst leaves and climb up the walls on vines.
I'd also suggest that you write on a sticker and place somewhere on the setup when you installed the light (month, year) so that you know exactly when to replace it once a year has passed. Just something I do that makes life easier!
What type of beardie are you going to get? Normal, yellow, red? Eastern perhaps?

 

[3one3rd]

oh cool thanks heaps Zoojas!!

heres one , ::Reptile One::
Day Light Heat Globe
2nd last from bottom page .