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Justin Smythe

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Hi all. New at this. I have a female albino Darwin and a male hypo caramel 100%het axanthic Jag. What would I get if I paid them together and if I kept a female offspring and bred it back to the dad would I end up with a super caramel.
Thanks for taking the time

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Just to clarify Herpetology's calculation is for your first proposed clutch.. You would then need to pick a caramel female to breed back to the father to create a super caramel. Visuals always sell better than hets and possible hets are even harder to sell. Price ultimately determines how fast they sell.. The second proposed clutch will all be a mix of possible 66% het for albino, 50% het for axanthic and visual 50% caramel and 25% super caramel if you pick a caramel mother.. Possible hets generally sell for the price as normals as they're only possibly hets.. hope that helps
 
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Most of the clutch will be mudblood jag sibs. You'll possibly literally have trouble giving them all away even if you make them free.

People like pretty morphs and people like pure animals. If a Carpet is neither pretty nor pure nor het for anything of interest, it has a commercial value of around zero, sometimes considerably less than zero. Because they have such low/no value, many Carpet Python breeders routinely kill most of the babies they produce each year (a highly controversial topic and practice) and just keep/sell the pretty ones, or they give the ugly ones to their friends to feed to Mulga Snakes, Black-headed Pythons etc (also a highly controversial practice, pick whichever side you like). For the record I haven't bred any Carpets for well over 10 years and never owned or produced any which weren't pure, I'm not talking about what I've personally done.
 
Just to clarify Herpetology's calculation is for your first proposed clutch.. You would then need to pick a caramel female to breed back to the father to create a super caramel. Visuals always sell better than hets and possible hets are even harder to sell. Price ultimately determines how fast they sell.. The second proposed clutch will all be a mix of possible 66% het for albino, 50% het for axanthic and visual 50% caramel and 25% super caramel if you pick a caramel mother.. Possible hets generally sell for the price as normals as they're only possibly hets.. hope that helps
Thank you. Whilst I'm only learning it's so hard. Would I be better pairing a axanthic coastal to my hypo caramel get axanthic Jag then my albino Darwin

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Oh and 50% of first clutch will be jags. Second clutch will be atleast 50% jags also, depending if you use a female Jag over the father of course..
[doublepost=1598872894,1598872292][/doublepost]Yes if that's what you personally want? You'd get roughly 25% caramel/axanthic (ghosts), 25% axanthics, 25% her axanthics and 25% caramel het axanthics. At end of the day you should decide what you want to achieve in breeding morphs or any animal before doing so
[doublepost=1598873486][/doublepost]I'd also recommend learning to understand genetics and modes of inheritance first
 
Oh and 50% of first clutch will be jags. Second clutch will be atleast 50% jags also, depending if you use a female Jag over the father of course..
[doublepost=1598872894,1598872292][/doublepost]Yes if that's what you personally want? You'd get roughly 25% caramel/axanthic (ghosts), 25% axanthics, 25% her axanthics and 25% caramel het axanthics. At end of the day you should decide what you want to achieve in breeding morphs or any animal before doing so
[doublepost=1598873486][/doublepost]I'd also recommend learning to understand genetics and modes of inheritance first
That's awesome. Thank you so much. It's ghosts that I am after. I love them so much. But I also love pure. The rest of my breeding will simply be purebred. Are there any books or something you can suggest to learn what you are telling me
 
That's awesome. Thank you so much. It's ghosts that I am after. I love them so much. But I also love pure. The rest of my breeding will simply be purebred. Are there any books or something you can suggest to learn what you are telling me

Ghosts are pure :) Caramel/hypo axanthic Coastals You might be thinking of snows which are coastal/darwin mix

Books--- https://www.herpshop.com.au/Books.html ----- complete carpet python by Nick and Justin

aswell as https://www.reptilecentre.com/eco-the-ultimate-ball-python-morph-maker-guide_p27734999.htm

Will teach u all u need to know about genetics and this and that
 
Ghosts are pure :) Caramel/hypo axanthic Coastals You might be thinking of snows which are coastal/darwin mix

Books--- https://www.herpshop.com.au/Books.html ----- complete carpet python by Nick and Justin

aswell as https://www.reptilecentre.com/eco-the-ultimate-ball-python-morph-maker-guide_p27734999.htm

Will teach u all u need to know about genetics and this and that
I just saw your two ghosts in photo. There exactly what I want

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That's awesome. Thank you so much. It's ghosts that I am after. I love them so much. But I also love pure. The rest of my breeding will simply be purebred. Are there any books or something you can suggest to learn what you are telling me
There's plenty of books, podcasts and forums like this with good info on genetics. Keeping and breeding carpet pythons by Mike Swan just to name one.
If you have any queries shout out we're all here to help :)
 
There's plenty of books, podcasts and forums like this with good info on genetics. Keeping and breeding carpet pythons by Mike Swan just to name one.
If you have any queries shout out we're all here to help :)
Thanks again. I've ordered 2 books already today and I will look for that as well. I didn't know there were podcasts as well. That's amazing. I am so in love with the carpet python it's not even funny.
Cheers

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You are always going to get conflicted advice. Books are a great source of information as they have usually been reviewed and edited by knowledgable people.
Their is a lot of bullshit on the internet and if you are new it's sometimes hard to sieve through it.
I also have articles written by Simon stone on my website. Just follow the link below and go to the info section. Although a little out dated they helped me a lot when I first started out.
https://southernserpents.com.au/
 
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You are always going to get conflicted advice. Books are a great source of information as they have usually been reviewed and edited by knowledgable people.
Their is a lot of bullshit on the internet and if you are new it's sometimes hard to sieve through it.
I also have articles written by Simon stone on my website. Just follow the link below and go to the info section. Although a little out dated they helped me a lot when I first started out.
https://southernserpents.com.au/
Mate. I love your site and the info in it. Top shelf [emoji869]. Your snakes are amazing as well

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A great vid for anyone looking to breed that details the path it takes to follow through with goals whether short or long term
 
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