I never noticed before but my son showed me the upgrade prices are dearer the higher you go. Something new I'm sure
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I'm pretty sure it's been like that for a while, I had the form on my desktop for a while before I decided to upgrade and the fees were higher for a higher class. But apparently they will charge the difference on the upgrade if you already have a licence so for example if I had a year left on the R1 they halve the fee and deduct it from the upgrade fee.
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Next month I will have more details, yesterday AHS had a guy in talking about the system changes but I missed the meeting unfortunately, but if anyone did attend the meeting, please post here. If no-one did, then next month I will ask and get more details.
vampstorso
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If it makes you feel any better, it's always been that way in SA
I think specialist licenses are almost double a basic license.
Didn't thrill me when I upgraded 5 years ago lol.
It was $105 for one year the first year... Since then I've just tried to block it out and not begrudgingly look at the rising fees every year.
SpottedPythons
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Well, let's hope in NSW they're gonna clean things up and the other states will follow. Especially in SA and TAS, their systems are very strict. I understand TAS since it's an island, but SA just wants extra revenue.
we can only hope,but you know states don't want to agree on anything;it has been like this ever since Oz was colonised.Different sized rail lines for instance .
SpottedPythons
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Edit: let's WISH that the other states will follow...
pinefamily
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I don't know that SA is that strict. Apart from the pricing, our system is pretty straight forward, and the fauna unit is great to deal with.
@ Vampstorso, the specialist permit price is part of the reason we haven't got one yet.
@ Vampstorso, the specialist permit price is part of the reason we haven't got one yet.
SpottedPythons
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It'd be great if you could get animals from SA though. But you guys have exempt reptile species, don't you? That's a lot better than NSW. 
SpottedPythons
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But hopefully, as mentioned, in August we will have exempts too!
pinefamily
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We have exempt species of reptiles, birds, and mammals. Not sure what you mean about getting animals from SA. It's very easy for us to get an import or export permit (2 day turn around), at no charge.
SpottedPythons
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Don't worry about what I said, I checked right after I posted and that book is outdated.
vampstorso
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I don't blame you.
Having young kids now means I don't have elapids,
And a horrific accident has meant I don't have my cockatoo (almost a year later and it still breaks my heart most days).
Leaving me with no specialist animals actually in my care.
So I've considered down grading due to the price... But I feel stuck. The price sucks when you're not using it, but the effort gone into getting the species approvals means I don't want to loose them either lol
I do feel a wee bit envious when I see the price of other states.... By wee bit... I really mean incredibly haha.
vampstorso
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On the website, specialist is currently $127
Maybe I will downgrade this year.
Maybe I will downgrade this year.
Nero Egernia
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A category 5 reptile licence - I suppose WA's equivalent of a specialist licence - is $300 yearly. Although if you pay for three years in advance it's lowered to $650.
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pinefamily
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Wow, and I thought we had it bad.
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I was speaking to a friend last night who was telling me that another of our good friends was at the meeting and from what was relayed to me it appears highly likely that there is going to be a massive shake up, even to the point that NSW Reptile Licences (and by the looks of it, somewhere not too far down the track, all other native and bird keepers licenses) will be taken out of the hands of NSWNP and handled by Service Australia (this would mean that licences will be obtained through the same body that provide car & boat licenses). Apparently this bloke from Service Australia was at the meeting. He sat there and let delegates from the AHS put there view forward and then a representative from NP before standing up, introducing himself and stating that he has been appointed to "clean up the licensing mess" and that NP wouldn't have to worry about it all after September because it was being taken out of their hands. When questioned about who was going to police the welfare and care of the reptiles he apparently told them, it was just his job to clean up the mess that is the current NSW licensing system and that side of things is outside his assigned portfolio but as he considers captives reptiles fall under the same category as pets that it would most likely be NSW RSPCA.
As I mentioned this information has been relayed to me second hand but if what I have been informed is fact (and I don't have any reason not to believe what I have been told) it also appears that there will be exempt species, no regulatory cage sizes, the ven & large monitor categories will be changed significantly and restrictions on selling specific species that are in place now will be lifted.
It will be very interesting to see if this ends up being the actual case.
George.
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Exempt species would be a welcome breather, this licencing tangle is constricting reptile keepers across the state like mice! I also hope that some species will be added to the licencing list... maybe freshies! (Just for professionals only, of course)
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Obviously all of this doesn't affect me in SA, but it concerns me to hear that the welfare of reptiles will (possibly) be left to the RSPCA. If the licensing side of things gets tidied up for you NSW folk, all good, but leaving mistreatment and neglect cases to the furry and fluffy brigade doesn't bode well.
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Very interesting George. So it looks like the "Code of Practice" that was such a shemozzle a few years ago might effectively be scrapped? What a waste of time that was anyway, for those of us who made numerous trips to Hurstville during the "consultation" process. It's no secret that Parks simply doesn't have the resources to keep tabs on every hatchling Bearded Dragon and hatchling Carpet Python sold into the system every year, and it's a pointless exercise anyway, with over 20,000 reptile keepers licensed in NSW. Will be interesting also if Service NSW takes over management of the system - for the things I already use them for, they have always been quick and helpful. I wonder if the restriction on the import of mixed-heritage GTPs will still stand - I've been trying to find a girl for a male I bred years ago, but they're thin on the ground atm it seems.
I guess what we might gain on one hand with the new Biodiversity Act could be lost on the other, with the easing of restrictions on land clearing and habitat destruction also mooted...
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