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beknluke

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Hi Guys
Well it goes something like this:
I bought these god forsaken animals from QLD and now my life is a frigging disaster.
I had to leave my job coz what my directors doing and making me do was so illegal that the union had to bust their balls and then I had to quit.
I am spending 3hrs a day treating the sick animals and 2hrs a day either cleaning tanks or feeding them all.
I have around 30 baby beardies who are all gorgeously coloured but aren't moving and I reckon it's because of the ****ing QLD ones!
I have no money coming in, but $150/week going out to pay for god damn lamisil. Add to that feeding expenses and my 'savings' is fast becoming a wasteland.
I have my Mum and husband checking in on me all them time for fear that I am going to have a mental breakdown - and I tell you what, I am not far off.
I am stressed off my face, angry, hurt, tired, depressed and most importantly, panicked and worried.
Worse still is the fact that at least one person out there has given my friend the impression that they have dealt with yellow fungus first hand and yet they have not contacted me with any advice.
I am purely trying to treat the fricking animals with info that I am getting from harassing a woman in the states! It certainly doesn't help that some of the products that they have access to over there are not sold here!
I AM OVER IT!
So, the point of this post is not to make people feel sorry for me because seriously, I am so strung out at the moment that I DON'T have he patience for it, but to ask if anyone out there knows ANYTHING!
Please, for goodness sake, PM me, email me, CALL ME! I need some serious help and things are not getting better quickly.
I am not getting any joy out of treating these animals, and it's not satisfying, nor giving me any fuzzy feelings. Like I said, I am angry as all hell and freaking out.
So please, if you have any info, have treated this yourself, know someone who has even! CONTACT ME for goodness sake.
I would say that I feel better after that rant, but I feel just as empty as I have now for 6 weeks.
Bex

PS - to show you all how serious I am about this, ask Zo. I had her on the phone at midnight the other night telling her that I was considering putting them all to sleep or giving them all away. Like I said - over it.
 
Sad to hear that Bex , on a worse note , the same people are selling the baby beadies in the paper to people that know nothing about was has happened to you . Has anything happened to the people that ripped you off ?
 
i wish there was something i could do, you are going through a crappy time and i hope it all works out soon, im sure with you care and dedication it will work out.
 
Dont know if you've seen this bex

http://www.beautifuldragons.503xtreme.com/yellowfungus.html

It was all I could find about it. Personally Id be giving all infected animals a bath in strong salt solution daily and otherwise keeping them as dry and clean as possible. absolutly sterile conditions, along with whatever treatment your currently giving.
I have no idea if this will work, but i know salt inhibits fungus in general. If youve tried all else, this sure as hell wont harm them any. Keep in mind herps immune systems dont respond as fast as mammals and treatments may take a few months.
If things prove too much of a financial strain, perhaps you could donate the infected animals to a university or vet for research into the disease?
Sdaji might know if his uni has any vets intrested in it.

I do hope you have some success. Im assuming any infected critters are quarantined.
Wish you best of luck with them, dont stress too much, your doing the best you can.
Inny :)
 
rockman said:
Sad to hear that Bex , on a worse note , the same people are selling the baby beadies in the paper to people that know nothing about was has happened to you . Has anything happened to the people that ripped you off ?

Did nothing happen to the people that sold you the poor beardies. There animals should have confiscated.

Good luck, if I were closer I would love to come and help.
 
Thanx guys
Rockman - are you serious?!?!? OMG! Which paper??? I need to stop them!!! Pains in the bum! Please PM me the dets if you can please.
Thanx Inny. My biggest issue here is how to get them better QUICKLY coz this pharmacy stuff is just SO exensive!! It's $19.95 in one chemist and $15.95 in the other - obviously I buy from the cheaper joint, but I still go through one of those spary bottles a day :shock: :evil:
I have actually struck a bit of luck I think (fingers crossed, fingers crossed) one one of the ones who has been getting worse, and that was by scrubbing the area with metho. I know that it sounds very extreme, but she doesn't have any open wounds in the area and I scrubbed it into my arm first to make sure. I think (again fingers crossed) that the fungus in that area is now dying!
I have actually been in contact with Veronica (the lady who owns beautifuldragons.com) and she was very helpful. The poor thing has been treating her beardie (Mo) for TWO YEARS!!! Now I am just HOPING that I don't have to do that with these ones... Friggin.......Grrr :evil:
Unfortunately, as anyone can see if they do a google search on yellow fungus disease, its not very widely documented, and I can only assume that some people who have it wouldn't want it leaking to the public in fear that noone would by from them. But this is too important, people need to know! And I have heard whispers that it is far more common in Aust that I was lead to believe!
I will be setting up a website (one day) and I will have as much info on there as I can - and if I ever win the lottery, I want to donate money to somewhere so that they can do the studies required to beat this thing once and for all! There's actually a Pogona Diseases yahoo group and there are SO many posts about yellow fungus that it is just tragic! And you should see some of the HORRIFIC pics I have been sent - and I thought mine were bad! These animals have HOLES in them :( :( It's horrible.
Thanx again Jas, Rockman, Inny, Browns, Slackra, Possum and Zard. I know you guys are thinking of me, and thanks for your supportive PMs, emails, posts and phone calls today.
Bex
 
And just quickly Possum, and to whoever else it curious, I gave all of my documentation to Dept of Sustainability down here in Vic as they requested and they told me that they passed it all on to QLD parks and wildlife and that I wasn't 'involved' anymore :evil: I don't think they have done a frigging thing!
So I contacted the QLD RSPCA and they're just waiting for a phone call back from QPWS and some more recent vet reports from me (I'm waiting on the vets) and they want to do an inspection - I sent them the pics on CD and they were horrified...
But, I am seriously thinking of just naming the person publicly anyway just to stick it up them... I was told by DSE not to do so cos they are up for fraud apparently, but again, I don't think they've done anything.
Bex
 
Dont take my word for it - but GARLIC. Infact garlic (sulfate) is the main ingredient in Pancur.

I have heard it is ok for intestinal parasites & worms in reptiles, dosage unknown, I have also heard excellent remedy for skin fungus - but not on open wounds.

As I say use at your own risk - just trying to give some helpful suggestions.

Cheers
Ari
 
This is my suggestion - good luck.

You say you are currently using metho & also a product from the vet/chemist?

I would suggest treating some with the metho - as a last resort, some with the product from the vet/chemist & 1 or 2 with garlic. Remember that with warm-blooded creatures what sometimes is rubbed on the skin can & will get partially abpsorded into the body. It is know that if you rub garlic onto your food in high doses that your breath can still smell of garlic. It gets absorbed. I am not aware of the situation with cold-blooded creatures - but have heard that garlic has been know as a herbal disinfectant for internal parasites & worms in reptiles. I would suggest purchasing a small bottle of garlic tablets, cutting the garlic oil out and wiping on a small area of the fungus to see any results - maybe 1 specimen first.

Is the room they are housed in rather humid? Humidity is a killer when trying to cure fungal problems. Humidity & heat is the worst thing I have heard.

Try the above and let me know how it goes.

Have the specimens you received from QLD ever been treated with antibiotics at all - prior to purchase?

As advised this is at your own risk - I have never tried this before - but by the sounds of it mate you need all the help possible.

Wish you luck.
 
beardies

hi, i think the reason your not moving your coloured beardies as fast as ud like has more to do with the price, & not coz of the QLD ones. (although that may be contributing to it all)
 
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beknluke said:
And just quickly Possum, and to whoever else it curious, I gave all of my documentation to Dept of Sustainability down here in Vic as they requested and they told me that they passed it all on to QLD parks and wildlife and that I wasn't 'involved' anymore :evil: I don't think they have done a frigging thing!
So I contacted the QLD RSPCA and they're just waiting for a phone call back from QPWS and some more recent vet reports from me (I'm waiting on the vets) and they want to do an inspection - I sent them the pics on CD and they were horrified...
But, I am seriously thinking of just naming the person publicly anyway just to stick it up them... I was told by DSE not to do so cos they are up for fraud apparently, but again, I don't think they've done anything.
Bex
DSE are not lawyers
Name them in a thread Guess who?
 
:twisted:
I like your way of thinking Joe!!
And I did try to reply to your post with all of that info (ARK) but my internet explorer 'unexpectedly quit'
Will do so tomorrow...
Bex
 
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