Please Explain...

[Mousey]

Just wondering about these colour variations with these Coastal ???

http://www.aussiepythons.com/module...ame=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

I have put up a few photos, hoping someone can explain.

thanks

Pascale

no snakey yet, still deciding. :?

 

[angelrose]

ermm, im confuzed

Angel

 

[Mousey]

Re: RE: Please Explain...

ermm, im confuzed

Angel

about my question or the colour variations?

 

[angelrose]

oh ok, i get, click on the mouse angel, open the album.... :shock: those are some pretty different colours variants arent they, coastals are very different, although im not sure if the hypo looking thing is actually a coastal the others look like different variants, like brisbane coastal.. etc... i think... but im no expert.

Angel

 

[angelrose]

about my question or the colour variations

no, about the mouse i saw when i clicked on that link lmao

 

[moosenoose]

I shouldn?t be delving in here as I?m certainly not anyone I?d consider an authority on the subject but, saying that, I?ll hypothesize an answer for you :lol:

I?m guessing like most things there are always variations, some subtle, some extreme. Many of the Australian Carpet snakes, in general, fall under the banner of Morelia Spilota. Then you get the forms of these species, your Cheynei?s, Variegata?s, Metcalfei?s etc etc and so the list goes on.

I?m guessing that the Coastals, the McDowelli?s had once been derived from a mix of various sub forms???? (Guessing!). The colouration changes are probably due to location (Darker colours to colder climates), pattern variations also being typical like most species. And yes, the lighter one in there looks like a hypo form (lack of black pigmentationing). It?s just a guess :wink: Anyone else care to have a crack? :lol:

 

[angelrose]

Well said moose.

me

 

[sxereturn]

The first one is a regular coastal. The second one looks like it is from FNQ, the third is hypomelanistic, and the fourth is a regular coastal.

 

[herptrader]

Re: RE: Please Explain...

The first one is a regular coastal. The second one looks like it is from FNQ, the third is hypomelanistic, and the fourth is a regular coastal.

I thought the first was a cartoon characature of a mouse?

 

[sxereturn]

RE: Re: RE: Please Explain...

Obviously you're a newbie...

 

[instar]

RE: Re: RE: Please Explain...

its morelia mousii ! Im guessing the one at far right is hypermelonistic (lack of pigment)? I like the URS one Too. One at bottom looks standard , The other? never seen that col/pattern before.

 

[AGAMIDAE]

RE: Re: RE: Please Explain...

it is said that the stripes are from hot incubation...dont know if its true but that rumor has been around for years.

 

[instar]

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does inc temp effect sex in pythons too, like crocs and gators?

 

[angelrose]

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Ive been told no when asking that question b4 instar, but thats from someone else so im not going to say 100% due to the fact that i cant even remember who it was that i asked... i think it was stockeh though.....

Angel

 

[AGAMIDAE]

RE: Re: RE: Please Explain...

couldnt tell you, never tried it however I am trying it with several dragons to see what I can find out

 

[thals]

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yeah, i luv the second carpet variation ....it looks like its a Northern QLD variant ...not sure

 

[sxereturn]

RE: Re: RE: Please Explain...

Lower incubation temperature produces stripe-like patterning. Incubation temperature has no effect on sex of snakes.

 

[instar]

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does it produce defects too high or too low in pythons or lizards? never considered turtles either, i wonder what exp Craig /Expansa1 has had with turts and inc temps regards sex? Craig?

 

[sxereturn]

RE: Re: RE: Please Explain...

Normally, if kept at the right humidity, eggs will hatch at temperatures between 24-32 degrees. The cooler they are, the longer it takes. Temperature spikes or excessive temperature can cause lots of different problems, but mainly kinky necks/bodies/tails.

 

[sxereturn]

RE: Re: RE: Please Explain...

I should have said "eggs will hatch at temperatures between 24-32 degrees, if kept constant".