Please Help

[danielpoke]

Hi everone i have posted for help before on the same issue..i have a bredli about a year old, when i first got her she didnt eat for about 3 months after trying a few different things she started eating but now again she has stopped eating not interested in the food at all, even when i put a live one in she didnt even look at it, i have asked people and they said i have the right temperature and the setup is fine but this snake will not eat shes not due for a shed can anyone shed some light on what i may be doing wrong or is this normal behaviour??

 

[xxMelissaxx]

What are the temps? I know you have asked already, but best to double check.

What sort of enclosure is it in? Is it in a high traffic or noisy area of the house?

How long has it not been eating for this time?

 

[danielpoke]

I dont know how good the pic is but shes in the middle section, the temp is at about 37, it is in the livingroom so it is very busy as i have a 4 yr old and a 2 yr old and she hasnt eaten in 4-5 weeks, i know they can go a while with out food i just dont wanna be doing anything wrong

 

[Wally]

4 -5 weeks isn't necessarily a time frame too stress about, but it might be worth considering moving those tanks to a slightly less busy area. I'd start with that and see if it improves things.

 

[ozziepythons]

I have to say 37degC is a bit too warm, they can go off their food if too hot as I've had this happen. Cool down to 30degC for a week and try a feed, it may do the trick.

 

[big_head]

is that 37 degrees for the whole tank? Is he predominately sitting up one end? My bredli spends most of his time in the cold area of his enclosure (roughly 20 degrees). Since he is in the middle enclosure, how about you test the temps out if you dont switch his heat on at all, and only have the heat on the top and bottom enclosure. I have no idea where glenmore park is, but as i said, my bredli likes it cool.
Finally, what food have you been trying to feed? How have you been preparing the food? Have you tried methods, such as 'braining' the rat/mouse?

BH

 

[danielpoke]

is that 37 degrees for the whole tank? Is he predominately sitting up one end? My bredli spends most of his time in the cold area of his enclosure (roughly 20 degrees). Since he is in the middle enclosure, how about you test the temps out if you dont switch his heat on at all, and only have the heat on the top and bottom enclosure. I have no idea where glenmore park is, but as i said, my bredli likes it cool.
Finally, what food have you been trying to feed? How have you been preparing the food? Have you tried methods, such as 'braining' the rat/mouse?

BH

Shes mostly in one back corner under her little tree, like i said i've had this problem before and i asked people for advice and i got told she was probably not warm enough so i put up the temperature and she ate once and then stopped again and i know more than likely i am doing something wrong so i need to know what that is, yes the whole thing is 37 degrees. She is eating(when she does of course) fuzzy rats and yes i have treid braining, she has been a bad eater since i brought her home.

 

[danielpoke]

thanks to everyone for your help much appreciated

 

[Snakelove]

If you got the whole enclosure to 37 degrees then the basking spot must be hotter then that. Or you dont have the correct ventilation? Anyway..try to get it to 33-35 one side and room temperature the other (below 30). Surely you mustve already known that snake enclosures need a temperature gradient? or is it just coz your house is REALLY hot?

 

[J-A-X]

Shes mostly in one back corner under her little tree, like i said i've had this problem before and i asked people for advice and i got told she was probably not warm enough so i put up the temperature and she ate once and then stopped again and i know more than likely i am doing something wrong so i need to know what that is, yes the whole thing is 37 degrees. She is eating(when she does of course) fuzzy rats and yes i have treid braining, she has been a bad eater since i brought her home.

as already said, 37c through the whole enclosure is too hot, under her basking light should be around 35c, and the cool end at least 25c.. if she spends most of her time under her tree at the opposite end of the tank, she is trying to tell you that is the only place she feels comfortable, away from the heat,
from the pics i'm guessing the tank is about 3ft long ? given that you have another tank under it and a bearded tank on top, i wouldn't be running anything higher than a 75w on a thermostat, with the probe on the top of the hide under the globe...
or add a lot more vents at the other end, make sure she has a plenty to drink or she will start to dehydrate,
are you running the heat at night as well, if you are she isnt getting any chance to cool down,
and with 2 young children in the house i'm guessing the lounge is prety well heated overr winter which wont be helping.

 

[danielpoke]

as already said, 37c through the whole enclosure is too hot, under her basking light should be around 35c, and the cool end at least 25c.. if she spends most of her time under her tree at the opposite end of the tank, she is trying to tell you that is the only place she feels comfortable, away from the heat,
from the pics i'm guessing the tank is about 3ft long ? given that you have another tank under it and a bearded tank on top, i wouldn't be running anything higher than a 75w on a thermostat, with the probe on the top of the hide under the globe...
or add a lot more vents at the other end, make sure she has a plenty to drink or she will start to dehydrate,
are you running the heat at night as well, if you are she isnt getting any chance to cool down,
and with 2 young children in the house i'm guessing the lounge is prety well heated overr winter which wont be helping.

I have tried adding the vents and i was running the heat at night as well, thanks so much for helping me and not judging me, also could you tell me if she doesnt eat how long till i should start to worry

 

[danielpoke]

If you got the whole enclosure to 37 degrees then the basking spot must be hotter then that. Or you dont have the correct ventilation? Anyway..try to get it to 33-35 one side and room temperature the other (below 30). Surely you mustve already known that snake enclosures need a temperature gradient? or is it just coz your house is REALLY hot?

I dont think i had enough ventilation, yes i know they need the gradient this house is really hot

 

[shellfisch]

You have quite a while before you need to worry about her not eating. A few months, especially if she is in good condition.

The temps, you have addressed, but consider moving her to a quieter room, at least for a bit until she is feeding trouble free and regularly?

If that is not possible, a dark cloth over her enclosure might do?

Lots of movement around her enclosure may not be helping.

And please don't put a live rodent in with her

 

[Snakewise84]

yeah my two spotteds get cracky if the temps are over 32 maybe let her cool for a few days ?

 

[Chris1]

you easily have 6 months of having her not eat, i lost my first bredli when he was 2 months old (first day, doh!) and he had had 6 feeds, the breeder said he would easlily live till the end of the year and this was on the 29th of march,...

if you realy really feel the need to put a live rodent (not that im encouraging that in anyway) in with ur snake do NOT leave them unattended, theres some really awful mishap threads around from people who feed live,..

 

[J-A-X]

if you have added more vents, what are your temps now ? until you get the temp right i wouldn't even attempt to feed her, Unless you live somewhere really cold then i wouldnt worry about night heating this time of year, If he is living in the same room as the heater for the humans the entire stack of enclosures to another area, maybe the dining room ? Yes reptiles are coldblooded and need a heat source to maintain good health, but 37 is going to lead to a problem one way or another. If the extra vents aren't doing the job, then you need to find another way.

what wattage heat source are you using, are you running a thermostat ?

And do not attempt live feeding, you would be better off handing it to someone (for a short time) who can assist/force feed before heading down the live food road.... and he should be ok for several months without food if he is in good condition to start with, there system is designed to cope with long periods without food.

 

[big_head]

Sort your temperatures out. As stated before, give just running the bottom and top enclosure of the stack ago and measure the temperatures. Heat will be transferred from the bottom enclosure. I wouldn't worry about night time heating until the temperatures are sorted completely. Provide a decent sized water bowl as well, if he needs to cool down he can get in it.

Also, how are you measuring the temps? is there a thermostat in the setup? Is that 37 a one off measurement, an average over a few days, on the ground, high up etc???

The blanket idea over the front is a good idea. once the temperatures are sorted, leave the snake alone completely for a couple of weeks and give feeding ago again.

Have you tried other food sources such as mice? Have you always used the same batch of rats (they could be a bad batch)?

 

[benjaffa]

don't feed live if you find my thread or post..whatever it is 'amputated tail, please help'
check it out i'll never put a live rodent near any of my snakes. BIG MISTAKE!!

 

[danielpoke]

thanks to everyone for their help temp has been dropped for a week we have a very happy snake she very active and she has eaten..thawd mouse wasnt even in there a second and she took it thank you everyone so much for the help!!!!!