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Considering the Brown Clade I'd consider EB's and all other browns the hardest Australian Elapids to identify. In fact I can't think of any I personally have more trouble with.


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Yeh, well i did say probably, put a pic in front of me and guarentee ill get it wrong which is why i dont post in elapid id threads. To me most vens look alike so i have a hard time telling them apart.

Thanks Bluetongue1.
 
Finally, I get to post what I want…

Phatty, I think you already have your positive ID from Spongebob & others… a form of V. scalaris. The group is very variable (therefore a pain identification-wise) and has long been considered to contain a number of subspecies, and more recently, species.

Allowing for the fact that it is a hatchling, the snout is still not sharp enough for V.tristis – compare the side-on view with one of the hatchling tristis shown side-on in the tub. The bands around the base of the tail in tristis are not continuous whereas in trisitis they are. Young trisitis invariably have a well developed dark eye streak which is most often absent in scalaris, as it is here. I do not find the pattern on the back useful as it can be virtually identical for both species.

Steve NT, the stand out difference with panoptes is this one’s lack of a dark eye streak sharply bordered above and below with white or cream. It also lacks black dots. Superficially, quite a few hatchling monitors do look quite similar.

GeckoPhotographer, Found in a swimming pool is not any indication of aquatic preference. I have retrieved a drowned Marbled Gecko from our pool. Whether they are attempting to access water to drink or just checking it out, I suspect they just cannot cope with the smooth sides and they loose their footing.

Blue

PS. Thanks Colin.
 
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