tessgalts
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p.s. the picture of the snake was very miss leading, she was very skinny, not much thicker than a pencil...so NO she didn't look great.....
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I'm not having a go at you about it i'm just saying from a breeders point of you and what i would do.
You need to be able to prove there was a problem when they sold the snake otherwise as far as they are concerned you could be making the whole thing up......and i'm not saying you did.
New comers and non feeding snakes is very common and most of the time theres nothing wrong with the snake, without seeing the snake how can you expect them to believe what you say?
Did you keep the dead snake? You could send them that with a vet report.
I'm not having a go at you, i just don't see the point to running down a breeder without exploring all options with the breeder.
You need to be able to prove there was a problem when they sold the snake otherwise as far as they are concerned you could be making the whole thing up......and i'm not saying you did.
New comers and non feeding snakes is very common and most of the time theres nothing wrong with the snake, without seeing the snake how can you expect them to believe what you say?
Did you keep the dead snake? You could send them that with a vet report.
I'm not having a go at you, i just don't see the point to running down a breeder without exploring all options with the breeder.
tessgalts said:
A bowel obstruction or a tumour. How can URS be responsible for that?
Especially if the snake fed 3 times since being purchased (as stated in the other thread). The blockage/tumour could have occurred after the sale.
Not pointing the finger here, but as has already been pointed out, bagging URS in this case is unfair.
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tessgalts
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ok yes i agree, you make some good points,as i understand where you come from as i too are a breeder, and thanks for the idea,i still do have the snake and i will send it to them and we will see how we go..
cheers.
cheers.
whytwolf
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Ok folks
I am the original owner of the snake that everyone is talking about. And I take GREAT OFFENSE to the innuendos that are being slung around here about myself and how I took of that snake.
As I recall I posted to THIS forum more than once about the feeding problem that I was having with the snake. AND i did call URS within 1 1/2 weeks to let them know the snake was not feeding. They said, "oh, she's stressed, she's this she's that....don't worry. Call us later if she still isn't eating. I did, I called twice more and got the same story. So i LISTENED to what they said to do, I LISTENED to what you all said for me to on this forum. Still she would not eat.
I feel like people here are treating me like the bad guy.... Well I did stuff up, i should have taken her to the vet, instead of listening to everyone else INCLUDING URS.
BTW I HAVE NEVER SAID DIRECTLY that URS was at fault here.....I have never pointed the finger at them. HOWEVER, she was NEVER eating correctly from the very beginning.
That said, I would appreciate it if everyone would stop discreetly bagging myself, and my son (to whom the dead snake belonged first)
I only put her up for sale because I sincerely thought that someone else could help her with whatever problem she had.
BTW I never charged Tess a DIME. So I didn't sell her a sick snake on the sly. I was VERY UPFRONT about how crook she seemed to be. And yes the photo wasn't the best, not intentional, it's a bit tough to take a pic of snake thru the glass and have it come out decently. I knew she wasn't feeling well and I wasn't about to pull her out and make her pose for you all.
Look, I own 3 cats, 2 purebred staffies, a budgie, 2 Orange beardies (who by the way are doing fabulously). I not an idiot when it comes to looking after animals. I owned a 4 foot ball python in the states before I moved here. And I had not one single problem with him. I am not a complete "newbie" to looking after reptiles.
I would appreciate everyone keeping their innuendoes to themselves and if you've got a problem with ME then email me, don't talk about me on the forum when you obviously don't even have the full story.
This isn't all about poor Tess either. I struggled with that beautiful snake since January and did everything i knew to do. My only fault was that I didn't take her to the vet. And I feel horrible about that. Maybe I should have rang URS once more and said "hey, there's something definitely wrong here" but I didnt'. I didnt' want to seem to be accusing them of something...
Anyway, I've had my rant and whatever you all happen to think of me, I know that I did the best I could and tried to do what was best for the snake. But in the end it was too little too late..
I am the original owner of the snake that everyone is talking about. And I take GREAT OFFENSE to the innuendos that are being slung around here about myself and how I took of that snake.
As I recall I posted to THIS forum more than once about the feeding problem that I was having with the snake. AND i did call URS within 1 1/2 weeks to let them know the snake was not feeding. They said, "oh, she's stressed, she's this she's that....don't worry. Call us later if she still isn't eating. I did, I called twice more and got the same story. So i LISTENED to what they said to do, I LISTENED to what you all said for me to on this forum. Still she would not eat.
I feel like people here are treating me like the bad guy.... Well I did stuff up, i should have taken her to the vet, instead of listening to everyone else INCLUDING URS.
BTW I HAVE NEVER SAID DIRECTLY that URS was at fault here.....I have never pointed the finger at them. HOWEVER, she was NEVER eating correctly from the very beginning.
That said, I would appreciate it if everyone would stop discreetly bagging myself, and my son (to whom the dead snake belonged first)
I only put her up for sale because I sincerely thought that someone else could help her with whatever problem she had.
BTW I never charged Tess a DIME. So I didn't sell her a sick snake on the sly. I was VERY UPFRONT about how crook she seemed to be. And yes the photo wasn't the best, not intentional, it's a bit tough to take a pic of snake thru the glass and have it come out decently. I knew she wasn't feeling well and I wasn't about to pull her out and make her pose for you all.
Look, I own 3 cats, 2 purebred staffies, a budgie, 2 Orange beardies (who by the way are doing fabulously). I not an idiot when it comes to looking after animals. I owned a 4 foot ball python in the states before I moved here. And I had not one single problem with him. I am not a complete "newbie" to looking after reptiles.
I would appreciate everyone keeping their innuendoes to themselves and if you've got a problem with ME then email me, don't talk about me on the forum when you obviously don't even have the full story.
This isn't all about poor Tess either. I struggled with that beautiful snake since January and did everything i knew to do. My only fault was that I didn't take her to the vet. And I feel horrible about that. Maybe I should have rang URS once more and said "hey, there's something definitely wrong here" but I didnt'. I didnt' want to seem to be accusing them of something...
Anyway, I've had my rant and whatever you all happen to think of me, I know that I did the best I could and tried to do what was best for the snake. But in the end it was too little too late..
No one is bagging you, people started saying things about URS so i felt i shoud point that out.
It's not your fault the snake had a tumor nor is it URS fault, i simply pointed that out because someone started talking about replacing the snake.
You are not the bad guy no one said you were, no one doubt the snake wasn't feeding or had a problem, i just pointed out URS point of view when it comes to replacing a snake in that situation.
It's not your fault the snake had a tumor nor is it URS fault, i simply pointed that out because someone started talking about replacing the snake.
You are not the bad guy no one said you were, no one doubt the snake wasn't feeding or had a problem, i just pointed out URS point of view when it comes to replacing a snake in that situation.
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We had the same sort of problem with a young BHP, these things do happen.We did not blame the breeder or anyone else, the breeder as far as we are concerned is the best one in Australia and we have bought more animals off him and would never hesitate to reccomend him to anyone. Animals are sold with the knowledge that they are eating, healthy etc but like some people, health issues may not rear their ugly head until sometime down the track and it is the fault of no-one!
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And by the way Whytwolf, stop beating yourself up about what happended, in the world of animals, there will always be tragedies, all you can do is learn by it!!
tessgalts
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IM SORRY I SHOULDN'T HAVE STUCK MY FOOT IN ,SORRY EVERY ONE,PLEASE.
This brings up a bit of good advice. First time snake buyers should really only buy snakes from experienced keepers (NOT pet shops) that are within easy reach if they are needed. I had a MD who went off her food. It was a nighmare where she did not eat for 9 weeks. I had bought her from experienced breeders who took her back and had her feeding with great vigour within a week. The reason she stopped eating became apparent then. But if I had of bought her from a breeder who lived 1000kms away (or from an ignorant pet shop) then most likley she would have been in big trouble, and it might of even been the end of her.
Just my two cents.
Just my two cents.
africancichlidau
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Are you going to enlighten us as to the reason?
She was put off by her "boyfriend" who shared the same enclosure (both were hatchlings in 2ft tank). We took him out of the tank and she still did not feed. Put her in a click clack inside the tank and she still did not eat. So she was put off by him and the larger tank.
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