QLD specialized permit/

[kr0nick]

Hey again thanks all I am about to ring my local DERM ranger to get a clearer picture, And does anyone else find the you can relocated venomous snakes with less experience then keeping them in your collection weird?

You would think public safety would be more important?

 

[Poggle]

Yes keeping them takes more, this is due to the fact that they do not feed like pythons, cant be handled like pythons etc etc, need to be in secure locked enclosures in a safe room dmp means you catch snake, remove it, release it less protocol hehe

 

[kr0nick]

Ahh I get that now poggle makes perfect sense now and lol do you live on this site or something , And Whisperer I email Martin last night and got the reply I was chasing this arvo.

 

[Poggle]

Ahh I get that now poggle makes perfect sense now and lol do you live on this site or something , And Whisperer I email Martin last night and got the reply I was chasing this arvo.

Nah at work, so i chek it throgh out the day waiting for some elapids to pop up for sale or something esle that take my interest

 

[scorps]

I also have my senior first aid (didnt tell them though) but I think it comes down to the fact that I obtained mine so easily is because i have had my dmp for years, I know the majority of the people dealing with it in first name basis just because of talking to them over the years when I get call outs.

 

[Poggle]

I also have my senior first aid (didnt tell them though) but I think it comes down to the fact that I obtained mine so easily is because i have had my dmp for years, I know the majority of the people dealing with it in first name basis just because of talking to them over the years when I get call outs.

When your dmp runs out this time dont be too shocked if you need to supply dmp... I have known my derm fella for years and he felt bad me having to supply my sfa

 

[kr0nick]

Ok I called my local ranger and he is away until the 6th of March.

So I called the QLD Parks and Wildlife hotline and went through 6! different people until I got A decent answer and still haven't got A full answer, have to wait until tomorrow morning when they ring back. First up I need A first Aid cert (which I have), And the "helpful" woman on the end of the line said that I needed 2 references but couldn't confirm (that's why I am waiting). I will let you all know what Parks and wildlife say tomorrow afternoon.

fingers crossed that I only need the one statuary declaration or reference, And the certificate of competency from Martins course

Also to get the specialized permit they will sting you $192.40 plus she mentioned another $40.25 for something and I will need to email A request to PALM before I give them these things.

It is all so confusing and I hope this helps some newbies in future.
I will post up more details tomorrow.​

 

[Poggle]

where are you located?? i may be able to help with contacts in DERM? it is 192.40 plus 60 for normal permit. you will also need to cancel your existing permit

 

[Pseudo]

To get your Specialist Permit you need:
A First Aid Certificate.
At least TWO references from other elapid keepers to say you are competent at handling and keeping venomous snakes.
A lockable room that only you have access to that the snakes will be kept in. It also has to be signed to say venomous snakes are in there.
Lockable and signed enclosures that the snakes will be kept in.
A 'first aid kit' in your herp room ...this only needs to consist of a few bandages.
You only need to pay the $192 for the licence.

DERM are absolutely useless to deal with, especially over the phone.

 

[kr0nick]

+1 Pseudo
That is exactly what I was after And I am from Gympie poggle jut near you actually lol

 

[Mister_Snakes]

To get your Specialist Permit you need:
A First Aid Certificate.
At least TWO references from other elapid keepers to say you are competent at handling and keeping venomous snakes.
A lockable room that only you have access to that the snakes will be kept in. It also has to be signed to say venomous snakes are in there.
Lockable and signed enclosures that the snakes will be kept in.
A 'first aid kit' in your herp room ...this only needs to consist of a few bandages.
You only need to pay the $192 for the licence.

DERM are absolutely useless to deal with, especially over the phone.

I find it's very difficult to get answers by just ringing their call centre, but once they put you in contact with someone in the know you can always call that person back with questions. I find them great to deal with, but it's just a matter of getting into contact with those people to begin with!

 

[kr0nick]

Lol snakes,
I will have to keep that in mind next time I am speaking to DERM

Spoke to DERM today,
The helpful woman on the line explained that it would be good to have two references and one reference and A certificate of competency will be fine. Also A first aid cert but did not say anything about being in A locked room but I am planning that anyway along with double locked enclosures. Again thanks for all the help

1 x reference (would prefer two but one is fine),
Senior first aid cert
A certified course as well as reference is mandatory.

Is what I got from QPAW themselves,
Sorry for blunt post been having A few

Standards for the captive maintenance of dangerous snakes
Minimum standards:
• Except during attempts to induce captive breeding, dangerous elapids must be housed individually.
• All cages and rooms in which cages are located must be snake-proof.
• If the room in which cages are located is not locked, then each individual cage housing a dangerous
species must be kept locked.
• Hatchlings of dangerous species are at least as toxic as adults, and can escape through very small
openings.
• Cages must be tightly screened and have no gaps greater than 1 millimetre. Rooms must likewise be
secured so that snakes cannot escape. This can be accomplished by filling gaps with “Silastic”, by
screening windows and by fitting sealing strips to doors.
• If you cannot snake-proof the room and cages in which dangerous snakes are to be held, then you
cannot keep them.
• Label all cages housing dangerous snakes with the species, common name and number of occupants.
• Adequate supplies (at least two) of neatly rolled crepe bandages for first aid in the case of snakebite
must be present in the room

Just pulled this off some DERM paper.
link is here http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/register/p00061aa.pdf
Clears up the locked room and enclosure questions

 

[Trench]

Theres a lot of hoops to jump through ay