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Those of you in states that allow shop sales are they diseased ridden overcramped knowledgeless dumps ? Or a worthy addition to the hobby ?
 
Whats even more ludicrous is that Kellyville pets already DOES allow you to purcahse reptiles, though only after participating a "How to keep" 1 hour class or something. Then a few animals (direct from breeders) are available to be purchased. This isn't the stupid part though, the really sad part is that Kellyville Pets labels certain snakes in an interesting fashion. For example: "Psuedo Jungles" and "Honey Jungles"....
 
Those of you in states that allow shop sales are they diseased ridden overcramped knowledgeless dumps ? Or a worthy addition to the hobby ?

if youm are talking to about the pet shop i work at they are all worthy addition to any ones hobby
 
Why would you want to go to a shop where they concentrate on add on sales and the profit margin when you can get to know local breeders who adore their animals and breed for the love and excitement of it?
 
it's not always about profit well with us it isnt
 
Whats even more ludicrous is that Kellyville pets already DOES allow you to purcahse reptiles, though only after participating a "How to keep" 1 hour class or something. Then a few animals (direct from breeders) are available to be purchased. This isn't the stupid part though, the really sad part is that Kellyville Pets labels certain snakes in an interesting fashion. For example: "Psuedo Jungles" and "Honey Jungles"....

And sending of a form and a cheque for a licence is adequate ? The whole nsw system needs an overhaul. A country wide system is what is really needed each state with the same laws and systems in place
 
then as a business you fail, which is why I hate pet stores because profit making and the love of animals never really mix
 
Why would you want to go to a shop where they concentrate on add on sales and the profit margin when you can get to know local breeders who adore their animals and breed for the love and excitement of it?

So what is a ad on sale with a snake?
 
Why would you want to go to a shop where they concentrate on add on sales and the profit margin when you can get to know local breeders who adore their animals and breed for the love and excitement of it?

And theres no breeders about chasing dollars ?
 
And sending of a form and a cheque for a licence is adequate ? The whole nsw system needs an overhaul. A country wide system is what is really needed each state with the same laws and systems in place


You want to go there? Ok lets open that seperate can of worms. Who wants to discuss the flaws in the NSW licensing system - my main gripe is the ability for identity theft. Other than that, the thought of a possible spot inspection is ok, somewhat.
 
The only way i think it could work is if there was an accreditationn system setup were a pet shop could sell reps as long as they passed certain criteria . M aybe have some sort of course they could do to get a reptile trade licence then have a condition that NPWS can do spot checks at any time unnanounced and if there are any issues bye bye rep trade licence.I would be more than happy to see us join the other states that allow it . As Auzlizardking says bad shops wont last long as im sure we'd all be on here telling everyone if we came across anything untoward.Why can i by a native bird from a shop but not a reptile? As long as the person purchasing is licensed the shop meets its criteria i9 cant see any reason that it cant be properly enforced.

Unfortuantely, there are a fair few badly run pet shops in NSW, and the authorities don't appear to be on top of the challenge of policing them properly. The consultative committee want to come up with a list of guides lines and rules that have to be followed and hopefully it will work.

There will almost certainly be a training course for shop staff and a qualification of some sort as the authorities recognise that reptiles have specialised needs.

Unfortunately, you will always get the bad apples, wether Private breeders or Pet shops, and it is upto the public to report the shops that keep animals poorly, as the once a year inspections just aren't enough.

I would hope that the vast majority will do the right thing, I am sure they will, and it will open up the hobby to alot more people than ever before, because alot of people are just not aware of the reptiles available privately.
 
with strict supervision and enforcement I can see it working, but what's the likelyhood of that? Do you southerners from SA and Vic find that pet stores and private breeders compete with each other for prices, or does one or the other remain dominant?
 
For those of you that earlier argued that NSW people don't have pet shops selling herps, so how can we say they are bad? This thread is typical of threads like this that have been cropping up periodically on APS since it's inception a few years ago.

This is how we know what some pet shops selling reptiles are like. And some of us have travelled and visited them.

http://www.aussiepythons.com/showthread.php?t=35655

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Hix
 
The only way i think it could work is if there was an accreditationn system setup were a pet shop could sell reps as long as they passed certain criteria . M aybe have some sort of course they could do to get a reptile trade licence then have a condition that NPWS can do spot checks at any time unnanounced and if there are any issues bye bye rep trade licence.

That is how it works in Qld - commercial license for pet shops is a compulsory six week course. National Parks comes and checks the shop before you add reptiles to make sure everything is satisfactory and can do random spot checks at any time.
 
Again why shop at Woolies - why not buy from the grower how loves growing his veggies and so on so on
It's the covenants
 
re Reptile

reptiles were protected in NSW in the first place because of shonky pet shops,the system we have now is good,if petshops were to be granted rights to sell we would have to have dealers in NSW and theres GST registration and tax tax taxs,no one actually pays tax now do they?
 
That is how it works in Qld - commercial license for pet shops is a compulsory six week course. National Parks comes and checks the shop before you add reptiles to make sure everything is satisfactory and can do random spot checks at any time.

It's the only way it can work and we as enthusiasts need to blab as soon as any thing untoward pops up.And Hix thers no breders with sub standard conditions about ? 1 bad pet shop and its curtains for all ?
 
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