'Restricted Reptiles' QLD EPA

[mrmikk]

What reptiles and amphibians, or can someone give me a link to this info, are deemed 'restricted reptiles and amphibians' as per the Qld EPA definition.

Thanks in advance

 

[mrmikk]

Bump

 

[3174]

NO u cant buy that 18ft anaconda u saw on ebay

 

[mrmikk]

NO u cant buy that 18ft anaconda u saw on ebay

Too late, bid's in, lol

 

[scam7278]

i saw the same one on petlink i was going to buy it but it was too small

 

[jham66]

Here is the link to the Pdf file. I am confused tho after looking at it!! I thought woma python were on the restricted animals list...but...looking at the pdf file...i'm free!!!!!!!!

Anyone with a better link that makes me, once again, unable to breed Woma's, please add to this thread with a more precise list.


http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/publicati...als_under_a_recreational_wildlife_licence.pdf

 

[jham66]

and the pages you want are p11 and 12

 

[Ozzie Python]

trying to remember from when i got my rec licence, is it correct you can have any number of commercial snakes, childrens, macs and stimpsons, plus 2 snakes that are native to aus and not on the list of restricted.

 

[mrmikk]

Thanks Jham,
with the Womas, the EPA told me when I was calling about the vens course that you need to have a rec (specialist) license to keep them, they classed them as they do vens, even the girl I was speaking to said it was strange, and she didn't know why that was the case.

Ozzie, it says on the info for the rec license that "...also allows keeping of a maximum of two (2) restricted reptiles or amphibians, other than dangerous reptiles..."

I am curious as to what is classed then as 'restricted reptiles'

 

[tan]

The restricted reptiles are womas and green trees native to aust. You can have two but if you want more than two you need to upgrade your licence to a restricted novenomous for more. (Does not include vens)

 

[Ozzie Python]

I'm looking at getting a BHP or Carpet (inland), they should fall into the rec licence shouldn't they under the restricted.

 

[mrmikk]

This is now my understanding

The Qld rec wildlife license app says,

"...also allows keeping of a maximum of two (2) restricted reptiles or amphibians, other than dangerous reptiles e.g. reptiles of the families Elapidae, Hydrophiidae or Laticaudidae."

In the EPA doc entitled;

'Keeping wildlife privately in Queensland — Conditions and restrictions — Keeping and using controlled, commercial, recreational, restricted or international animals under a recreational wildlife licence'​

'Recreational reptiles or amphibians
[FONT=Arial,Arial]All least concern reptiles other than restricted reptiles are recreational reptiles. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Arial]All least concern amphibians are recreational amphibians.'[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,Arial]So, the only aspect not discussed is 'dangerous reptiles', so with that said, a BHP is not of either of the 3 families above (it is Aspidites melanocephalus), I would not imagine it is classed as a dangerous reptile, therefore I would suggest it can be kept on a standard recreational wildlife license.[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial,Arial]If I am off the mark, I am sure someone will advise.[/FONT]​

 

[slim6y]

I'm looking at getting a BHP or Carpet (inland), they should fall into the rec licence shouldn't they under the restricted.

I believe all pythons except rough scaled, green tree and womas (or any exotic python or boa) are classified under the recreational Qld license...

 

[Ozzie Python]

Thanx for your help with that one everyone. i'm sure if i ring epa they can give me a diffinitive answer, will let you know what they say.

 

[Magpie]

Womas, GTP, Rough Scaled and Oenpelli pythons are not "Least Concern" and therefore not Recreational animals.
You are missing the "Least Concern".

 

[mrmikk]

Thanks Magpie, I couldn't find a definitive list of 'least concern' reptiles in my quick look through the docs I mentioned above, so thanks for adding that.

 

[rigga]

Restricted reptiles or amphibians

The following reptiles are restricted reptiles:

Common name Scientific name

The following reptiles of the family Elapidae —
black snakes Pseudechis spp
broad-headedsnakes Hoplocephalus spp
brown snakes Pseudonaja spp
Collett’s snake Pseudechis colletti
copperheads Austrelaps spp
death adders Acanthopis spp
eastern small-eyed snake Rhinoplocephalus nigriscens
rough scaled snake Tropidechis carinatus
taipans Oxyuranus spp
tiger snakes Notechis spp

The following reptiles of the family Hydrophiidae —
all species

The following reptiles of the family Laticaudidae —
all species

All threatened or rare reptiles other than the following

reptiles of the family Cheloniidae
reptiles of the family Dermochelydiae—
Crocodylus johnstoni freshwater crocodile
Crocodylus porosus saltwater crocodile

GTP is listed as international animal from what I"ve read

 

[Australis]

Anyone know for sure what species EPA consider endangered?

 

[Ozzie Python]

nothing that im 100% aware of, their website doesn't state what the species are. your best bet would be to contact the ecoaccess help staff and check with them.

Their details are on www.epa.qld.gov.au

I'm going to call them in next few days and see if they can give me a list of what pythons you can and can't have on recreational licence.

 

[jham66]

Ok, here is a bit more information....



"The Woma python (Aspidites ramsayi) is listed as VULNERABLE on the schedules of the NSW Threatened Species Conservation Act. The species was listed because:

• Its population and distribution are suspected to be reduced
• It faces moderate threatening processes
• It is an ecological specialist (it depends on particular types of diet or habitat)

The above reasons are a summary of why the species was listed as vulnerable. The reasons are based on:

• Criteria set down in the Endangered Fauna (Interim Protection) Act, which has now been replaced by the Threatened Species Conservation Act.
• Data obtained from a questionnaire sent out to experts on this species. The questionnaire was used to evaluate the status of all threatened and non-threatened native vertebrates in NSW. The results were published in an NPWS monograph which you can buy online - see below for more details."

These details were copied from the NSW National parks and wildlife site.


But having read all that, does Qld recognise other states vunerable species? As far as all documentation available on the EPA Qld is concerned there is no such thing as a Woma python. I think that if they want people to follow all of their rules they should set them out in a way that there is no ambiguous or incomplete information. We are after all investing a lot of time just to figure out what we are allowed to do......