some elapid picts

[saratoga]

 

[m.punja]

any better shots of the ingrams jamie? They look nice. Also, another great shot saratoga! RBBB, hehe, I only just noticed that your avatar is a brown I always glanced at it but never stopped to have a better look and realise it's a brownie.

 

[m.punja]

old pics but good ones

 

[redbellybite]

punja its the same snake as the pics .."was a very flighty I wanna bite you and your gonna suffer " QLD eastern brown it was spitting venom and going nutjob on us, posed perfect for the pics ...and then when it was time to bag it ,calmed right down ..unreal brownie...was about 6ft, so not huge but good size to grapple with

 

[Jonno from ERD]

6 foot, not huge? I've seen a grand total of 4 wild Browns longer than 6 foot. You must have one of those special snake measurers The ones all the farmers use for their 12 foot carpets and 8 foot browns

 

[redbellybite]

Jonno 6 ft isnt huge.. its a GOOD size and I measured it basically as I am 6ft myself and this fella was close enough to that ....never claimed it to be exact...and I Know the farmer measurements, as quite often I get call outs to 8 foot browns in hay sheds ........lol .............

 

[TrueBlue]

jonno, ive relocated a few browns on the sunshine coast that would easily of been around the 8 foot mark and as thick as your arm. Absolute monsters.

 

[redbellybite]

OBVIOUSLY TRUEBLUE you own one of those measuring thingamajigs the farmers have ........and Jonno are you saying only YOU are able to find big EB's?mmmmmmm you got a tracking device no one else has huh ? ok then to be more precise then for YOU JONNO he was about 5ft 11 then........oh and remember I am FEMALE ..I DONT NEED to exagerate the length of my snake:lol::lol::lol:

 

[waruikazi]

...was about 6ft, so not huge but good size to grapple with

Not huge???

The biggest ven i've had to deal with was a just over 5ft gwardar. It scared the crap out of me and definately wanted me dead. You ladies on the east cost have far bigger nads than i do.

 

[redbellybite]

tell you the truth ..I find the EBS that are between 4-6 ft alot easier to handle then the little stinkers that have the same attitude as the big ones ,but more agile and quicker to strike at you ...the juvies are a nightmare to tail in my opinion...trying to do a loop to hold, is very hard and I have not yet been able to do it with the little eb's...have done it with a small eyed and rbbs juvies (and that made me nervous.. lol ) but really no comparision in temprement either, waruikazi...I still dont see an eb HUGE at 6ft.....its BIG no doubt...HUGE to me is bigger then me .....

 

[saratoga]

RBB...can I ask what you mean by a "loop to hold".

I agree that generally larger snakes are easier to deal with than smaller ones flicking around....things like Mulgas being a good example.

 

[waruikazi]

I found the 1-2fters the easiest to handle and tail (gwarders and whips). Nearly impossible to hook though. I would normally put my foot on them or jigger them. And you can roll the small ones in your hands easier than you can tap the larger ones to stop them coming back at you when bagging them.

 

[redbellybite]

I find the opposite lol ......at least with the bigger ones when using the jigger you have a handle on the tail while head is hooked onto the jigger and are able to better control and get in bag .the little ebs are like pocket size full of TNT and wanna take you out ......they are cute as ,,but fiesty little turds,am talking about 1 to 2 footers after that it is not too bad ...(we call the snake hook a jigger and what you call a jigger is called a pinner too ) ........

 

[Mr feegle]

what do you guys and dolls reconmend for a first elapid

 

[TrueBlue]

redbellybite, an easy way to catch the little ones is to get a pillow case,(perferably a thick winter one), and fold it over 2-3 times and use that to pin their head. Its too thick for them to bite you thru, and then use your other hand to slide up the body under the pillow case untill you feel the back of the head and get a good grip.
Works extremly well, i use this method on all small nastie elapids such as browns and roughies etc.

 

[waruikazi]

RBB...can I ask what you mean by a "loop to hold".

I agree that generally larger snakes are easier to deal with than smaller ones flicking around....things like Mulgas being a good example.

I'm curious about a loop hold too. Can you explain the RBB?

what do you guys and dolls reconmend for a first elapid

Not that i'd know cause i don't have anything to do with captive vens but i'd go for something like a black whip. Fast nervous animals that will bite you if you mess up, similar to a brown but wont kill you.

 

[redbellybite]

the loop is hard to explain in writing its something I have been shown to do and i did try to explain it to saratoga but it probably sounds weird ....the technique of tail twisting(where you roll your thumb and two fingers in a circular motion ) to prevent the snake from climbing up itself works on bigger ones but not well on juvies so the loop action seems to work, but like i said i have only attempted on two snakes and neither one were eb's...was shown how to do it but not real good at it myself but it worked...if i get to do the loop again will get some pics and post ...but will be honest wont do it on a fiesty eb juvie still got my learners on with that action and rbbs juvies are alot more calmer...

 

[dodgie]

the loop is hard to explain in writing its something I have been shown to do and i did try to explain it to saratoga but it probably sounds weird ....the technique of tail twisting(where you roll your thumb and two fingers in a circular motion ) to prevent the snake from climbing up itself works on bigger ones but not well on juvies so the loop action seems to work, but like i said i have only attempted on two snakes and neither one were eb's...was shown how to do it but not real good at it myself but it worked...if i get to do the loop again will get some pics and post ...but will be honest wont do it on a fiesty eb juvie still got my learners on with that action and rbbs juvies are alot more calmer...

:lol:

 

[Vincent]

Here's a couple of the smaller species.

 

[ryanharvey1993]

nice snakes shane, seen those pics already but I want to keep this thread alive