lol suppose it would help if I had a car :lol: although if I did have a car I wouldnt bother looking for all the locale snakes that much, would be heading out to somewhere better for herps. next sunday I should have some pics of some. going to a spot where people I know have found them, the people I know that have found them will be there, I will be there, will be there 3 days. so hopefully will see them. wouldnt mind seeing a death adder, a stephens banded snake and some saltuarius moritzii there either (they have seen all 3 of them species aswell)