Tragedy

[flavirufus]

I have a great dislike for how the media likes to "manufacture" news.

.... and yet you continue to propogate this "manufactured news" by speculating in a public forum using heresay derived from the media!

For example:

The suggestion in the the evening news which I find a bit of a worry is that the scrubbies had free range of his home which to me is irresponsible no matter how well behaved they usually are. Combine this with the other suggestion that he was completely blotto and tradgedy is a possible result.

and

I doubt the media will have a lot to say about it if he just got a little drunk and fell down flat on his face causing an unlucky fatal injury.

Given the sensationalistic nature of the news reports, perhaps it'd be better to temper speculation until more hard facts come to light?

Regarding Bob's comments on taipans in SA, I remember the string of bites that occured. As Bob alluded to, and Tim showed in the documentation, this led to a restructuring and tightening of venomous snake keeping laws. I particularly remember a bite that was suffered by Rosa Levi. Luckily, after being in critical condition, she fully recovered (and went on to be awarded life membership to the SA Herpetology Group ).

 

[herptrader]

I thought that what I said was carefully worded. The term "suggestion" implies that I am not convinced that it is true.

If what was suggested did turn out to be true then it is irresponsible.

I have a great dislike for how the media likes to "manufacture" news.

.... and yet you continue to propogate this "manufactured news" by speculating in a public forum using heresay derived from the media!

For example:

The suggestion in the the evening news which I find a bit of a worry is that the scrubbies had free range of his home which to me is irresponsible no matter how well behaved they usually are. Combine this with the other suggestion that he was completely blotto and tradgedy is a possible result.

and

I doubt the media will have a lot to say about it if he just got a little drunk and fell down flat on his face causing an unlucky fatal injury.

Given the sensationalistic nature of the news reports, perhaps it'd be better to temper speculation until more hard facts come to light?

 

[SnakeWrangler]

All I can say is that I never presumed to know 'hard facts', I have always said 'if'.

That letter doesn't change the fact that the snake was found outside of its enclosure, also, a snake of that size would crush bones if it constricted anyone, the snakes intention may not be to crush, but that would certainly happen with that kind of snake as an adult.

I never thought the issue we were discussing was this person's death specifically. That issue is that even if the snake was not responsible for the death, it should never have been out of its enclosure without at least two strong people present, but it was. Is anyone going to say that this was a responsible thing to do?

I do not want to disrespect this person, and I do not believe discussing it is disrespectful. If you don't want to discuss it, then don't, but don't think for a second that everyone has to stop because you don't like it.

 

[Fuscus]

The overseas papers have got into the act. Note how they dispute the Advertisers report.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews/2005/05/04/1024917-ap.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005201800,00.html

 

[PilbaraPythons]

SnakeWrangler
A snake that size would not crush human bones.

 

[Fuscus]

Sane report from the local Barossa paper
http://barossa.yourguide.com.au/det...egory=general news&story_id=391340&y=2005&m=5
Geoff Coombes is a member of SAHG and owns a sister to my water pythons ( plus heaps of hots )

 

[SnakeWrangler]

SnakeWrangler
A snake that size would not crush human bones.

I was thinking more along the lines of breaking more than crushing. But yeah, I still think it would. I have felt the force that a small 2ft python can produce, I can imagine what kind of pressure would come from a 18ft+ python.

 

[Snake Catcher Victoria]

they can and do break and separate bones all the time

 

[cwarren72]

people I think we are getting away from the point here, the thing is that some have touched on here the pollies and the general public will form their own opinions but if we can even show just one person that if he was killed by his snake through negligents then we should seperate ourselves from him and let people know that we as keepers do not condone ill trealment or stupid behaviour of any kind. And if we can convince just one person of that then we are justified to talk about this. This case only highlights the fact that we don't agree with silly behaviour and yes I know we don't know all the facts and he may not have done anything wrong but don't confuse him in the issue of stupidity and/or neglect

 

[PilbaraPythons]

ssssnakeman
Are you seriously suggesting that a large scrub python could break human bones? If one got hold of my great Grandma then I might believe it. Besides perhaps breaking a finger or two I am not convinced.

 

[Snake Catcher Victoria]

pb,not the best place to go into this,but yes i do think that a big pyhon can damage some human bones,...can we agree to disagree..here at least

 

[PilbaraPythons]

Yeah no worries sssnakeman