Trying to convince parents

[BDkeeper]

Hi guys i really want to get a snake or python and have been reading up on a few im thinking either spotted or childrens, but i have a few questions first whats easier to keep? Which is better to keep? And whta will be better for a first time python keeper? And one finale question before anyone answers any of those is how do you convince youre parents to let you have a snake? I have lizards and used to have turtles they just seem not to like snakes is there any advice on convincing them to let you get one?
Anyway if you have this much thanks for letting me take youre time away to ask you these questions
And thanks in advance

 

[Lawra]

Good luck convincing your parents mine refuse to visit now.

I was joking about getting a croc or lacie (maybe not joking about the LaCie) and they said anything as long as it's not a snake.

Parents are weird sometimes

I've not kept either of those snakes so I'll let the experts comment on them

Good luck!!!

 

[Reptiles101]

Hey BDkeeper,

I've had this same problem with my parents as they don't like snakes, the things I tried to convince them were things like joining this forum and showing & telling them that snakes and beautiful creatures and that there not out to get us, I've also showed my mum heaps of YouTube vides of the Antasisa group (Spotteds, childreni., and stimson's, and ringing up pet shops for the supplys I need and getting good prices on things and showing them I'm really responsible and ready to have such a pet.

& heaps of nagging haha, in the end it's paid off for me and now I'm getting my first snake and now my mum doesn't really mind them neither dose my dad, I also took both of them to my local pet shop and held one, didn't get tagged or anything so that worked in my favor to get one even more lucky it was a docile hatchling.

I'm getting a hatching stimson's python in a couple of months time from a breeder, so I'm pretty exited, as there a small python and really good for beggingers, but children pythons are good, and the spotted, I've made list of all the things I need and drew and quick sketch of what the set will look like, now both my parents know I'm ready for a python, also use the therm python, as when u say snake they most likely think venomous and slimy, pythons have no venom I said this to both my parents so many times and that chage their line of thinking hehe.

Ive had blueys and geckos before so I'm not new to reptiles, so I have a fair idea to what I'm doing....another thing is to say 'ill be the one looking after it, not u", this worked for me to convince both my parents, and now all my work paid off.

good luck, and u hope u can convince both your parents, I'll tell u now it want be easy hahahah

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whats easier to keep? Which is better to keep? And whta will be better for a first time python keeper?

All the Anatarisa are pretty much the same to keep,Stimson's are the smallest, spotteds are the biggest of the group and the children's is in the middle I think of the sizes (someone correct me if I'm wrong) , there all great for beggings, but just chose the one u like best.

 

[ronhalling]

Hey m8, 1st and foremost "Do you think you are ready" to take on the responsiblity of looking after a Python ?? There is more to just the book reading ie have you researched the availability of food for whatever Python you decide upon, have you checked the local supply of pinkies, fuzzies, Hopper, sub adult and adult of both Mice and Rats do they have access to day old chicks or Quails if you get a problem feeder, Do you have access to the different enclosures and furniture needed as your Python grows, Do you know if there is a Reptile Vet in your area (this 1 can be a killer for the parents if they have to take you 50 kilometers or more to see a Reptile Vet) Do you know someone locally with a very passive Python ?? if you do you could take your Mum to see and handle it, once Mum is on board Dad will follow, You need to be able to honestly answer all the above and more, and document everything on paper from feeding, housing, costs for food, substrates, heat sources, thermostats and everything else you can fill the pages with. Then you have to honestly answer the question "will my Python be my priority". As a parent i can tell you that honest documented research impresses me much more than the pleading child or teenager who stands in front of me saying please please i promise i will look after it or i promise to keep it clean myself, or i promise to do X to pay for it's food etc. Research, Research, Research and plenty of it. As far as what Python to get all i can say is i keep a pair of Spotted Pythons and in my opinion they would be great as a starter Snake, but i also got a Port Macqaurie Intergrade as a Hatchling and she has turned out to be the most placid beautiful Python imaginable, my advice would be if possable test drive them all then make an informed decision with your parents involvement. Hope it all turns out well for you. ................................Ron

 

[Djbowker]

Mate, the trick is you have to ask to get something they hate more.
Like spiders, high powered vehicles, or a boyfriend/ girlfriend.
And then nag them, and nag them, and then eventually say, well can I just get a snake then?
Works 77% of the time, regardless of whether it's parents or partners.

And I'd go with a stimmy, Woma or a carpet, it all really depends on the snake you actually get to how it behaves. Don't get a snake because it's an 'easy' snake to start with, get a snake you're genuinely interested in from get go.

 

[BDkeeper]

Hey BDkeeper,

I've had this same problem with my parents as they don't like snakes, the things I tried to convince them were things like joining this forum and showing & telling them that snakes and beautiful creatures and that there not out to get us, I've also showed my mum heaps of YouTube vides of the Antasisa group (Spotteds, childreni., and stimson's, and ringing up pet shops for the supplys I need and getting good prices on things and showing them I'm really responsible and ready to have such a pet.

& heaps of nagging haha, in the end it's paid off for me and now I'm getting my first snake and now my mum doesn't really mind them neither dose my dad, I also took both of them to my local pet shop and held one, didn't get tagged or anything so that worked in my favor to get one even more lucky it was a docile hatchling.

I'm getting a hatching stimson's python in a couple of months time from a breeder, so I'm pretty exited, as there a small python and really good for beggingers, but children pythons are good, and the spotted, I've made list of all the things I need and drew and quick sketch of what the set will look like, now both my parents know I'm ready for a python, also use the therm python, as when u say snake they most likely think venomous and slimy, pythons have no venom I said this to both my parents so many times and that chage their line of thinking hehe.

Ive had blueys and geckos before so I'm not new to reptiles, so I have a fair idea to what I'm doing....another thing is to say 'ill be the one looking after it, not u", this worked for me to convince both my parents, and now all my work paid off.

good luck, and u hope u can convince both your parents, I'll tell u now it want be easy hahahah

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All the Anatarisa are pretty much the same to keep,Stimson's are the smallest, spotteds are the biggest of the group and the children's is in the middle I think of the sizes (someone correct me if I'm wrong) , there all great for beggings, but just chose the one u like best.

Thanks ill try the python wording instead of snake and im looking after it not you cause i think that that may just work and i think im leaning more towards spotteds now
Thanks

Hey m8, 1st and foremost "Do you think you are ready" to take on the responsiblity of looking after a Python ?? There is more to just the book reading ie have you researched the availability of food for whatever Python you decide upon, have you checked the local supply of pinkies, fuzzies, Hopper, sub adult and adult of both Mice and Rats do they have access to day old chicks or Quails if you get a problem feeder, Do you have access to the different enclosures and furniture needed as your Python grows, Do you know if there is a Reptile Vet in your area (this 1 can be a killer for the parents if they have to take you 50 kilometers or more to see a Reptile Vet) Do you know someone locally with a very passive Python ?? if you do you could take your Mum to see and handle it, once Mum is on board Dad will follow, You need to be able to honestly answer all the above and more, and document everything on paper from feeding, housing, costs for food, substrates, heat sources, thermostats and everything else you can fill the pages with. Then you have to honestly answer the question "will my Python be my priority". As a parent i can tell you that honest documented research impresses me much more than the pleading child or teenager who stands in front of me saying please please i promise i will look after it or i promise to keep it clean myself, or i promise to do X to pay for it's food etc. Research, Research, Research and plenty of it. As far as what Python to get all i can say is i keep a pair of Spotted Pythons and in my opinion they would be great as a starter Snake, but i also got a Port Macqaurie Intergrade as a Hatchling and she has turned out to be the most placid beautiful Python imaginable, my advice would be if possable test drive them all then make an informed decision with your parents involvement. Hope it all turns out well for you. ................................Ron

Ready as ill ever be pretty much aha, yeah i go to my local pet shops all the time ( there are three) so i dont think that there all going to run out at the same time ( + two of them are really big). There is a vet right down the road from me. I dont know someone locally with a snake but one of the petshops will be getting there reptiles very very soon. And finally yes the python will be my prioritycause as far as im concerned it will be my only python i will be getting for a long time .
Thanks i now have a better opinion of what im getting into

Mate, the trick is you have to ask to get something they hate more.
Like spiders, high powered vehicles, or a boyfriend/ girlfriend.
And then nag them, and nag them, and then eventually say, well can I just get a snake then?
Works 77% of the time, regardless of whether it's parents or partners.

And I'd go with a stimmy, Woma or a carpet, it all really depends on the snake you actually get to how it behaves. Don't get a snake because it's an 'easy' snake to start with, get a snake you're genuinely interested in from get go.

I have already tried that and it didnt work :/

 

[kamandakill]

Haha djbowker! Pretty much bang on! Its like when me n my partner were buying a new bed, he wanted firm I wanted medium but I told him I wanted soft, after arguing for awhile HE suggested we compromise on medium.... I win! Lol although im not sure if that's the best approach for this situation, depends on your parents I guess, you know them better than us! I would be going with the impress them with research and responsibility approach and definitely try to get them to hold a python if possible as that will break their fear (if it goes well). Also do some research and tell them a new PYTHON fact everyday (I agree you shouldn't say snake), one new fact everyday, not only will they learn but they will see that your taking the initiative to learn also and hopefully this will impress them. Keep at it and hopefully they will come around, although it may take time. How old are you btw? As for which python would be better, I can't really say as I've only ever had one, a South West carpet python (she's fantastic, really placid and easy to handle)

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Also when choosing I think a big consideration should be how large the python will grow, I don't know the average full grown lengths of spotted or childrens (maybe something you could look up to tell your parents? !) But my python is 2m long and I think it's a great size for me, im pretty sure spotteds and childerns don't get anywhere near that big which would mean you don't need too large a tank and it wouldn't be as daunting for your parents. But this is a pet you will have for a long time so choose something that fits what YOU want

 

[spud_meister]

I got my first snake when I lived with my mum, she didn't like snakes, but she let me have one as long as it stayed in my bedroom, and I paid all the costs. It worked out well.

 

[BDkeeper]

Haha djbowker! Pretty much bang on! Its like when me n my partner were buying a new bed, he wanted firm I wanted medium but I told him I wanted soft, after arguing for awhile HE suggested we compromise on medium.... I win! Lol although im not sure if that's the best approach for this situation, depends on your parents I guess, you know them better than us! I would be going with the impress them with research and responsibility approach and definitely try to get them to hold a python if possible as that will break their fear (if it goes well). Also do some research and tell them a new PYTHON fact everyday (I agree you shouldn't say snake), one new fact everyday, not only will they learn but they will see that your taking the initiative to learn also and hopefully this will impress them. Keep at it and hopefully they will come around, although it may take time. How old are you btw? As for which python would be better, I can't really say as I've only ever had one, a South West carpet python (she's fantastic, really placid and easy to handle)

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Also when choosing I think a big consideration should be how large the python will grow, I don't know the average full grown lengths of spotted or childrens (maybe something you could look up to tell your parents? !) But my python is 2m long and I think it's a great size for me, im pretty sure spotteds and childerns don't get anywhere near that big which would mean you don't need too large a tank and it wouldn't be as daunting for your parents. But this is a pet you will have for a long time so choose something that fits what YOU want

Yeah I don't really think we can treat snakes like beds aha, I just turned 15 about a month ago. And yeah I'm trying to do that but it's hard to find one each day :/ and yeah everyone says there good but will grow to big for me if I never want my parents to so it.
Thanks

 

[kamandakill]

Whatever you do DONT nag or whine like a toddler, everyone hates that, stop asking for one altogether. Instead just keep talking about pythons and saying "WHEN I get a ptython...." talk about it like it IS going to happen even if you have to wait until you've grown up and moved out. Hopefully it doesn't come to that but make sure your parents know how serious you are and that you ARE going to get one even if you have to wait a long time. If you mention pythons at least once everyday then it won't take long for them to see just how keen you are and if you keep it up they will soon realise that it's not just a passing phase, its something you are genuinely passionate about. GOOD LUCK!

 

[DaReptileBoy]

Hi guys i really want to get a snake or python and have been reading up on a few im thinking either spotted or childrens, but i have a few questions first whats easier to keep? Which is better to keep? And whta will be better for a first time python keeper? And one finale question before anyone answers any of those is how do you convince youre parents to let you have a snake? I have lizards and used to have turtles they just seem not to like snakes is there any advice on convincing them to let you get one?
Anyway if you have this much thanks for letting me take youre time away to ask you these questions
And thanks in advance

im in the same boast as you bro

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Hi guys i really want to get a snake or python and have been reading up on a few im thinking either spotted or childrens, but i have a few questions first whats easier to keep? Which is better to keep? And whta will be better for a first time python keeper? And one finale question before anyone answers any of those is how do you convince youre parents to let you have a snake? I have lizards and used to have turtles they just seem not to like snakes is there any advice on convincing them to let you get one?
Anyway if you have this much thanks for letting me take youre time away to ask you these questions
And thanks in advance

im in the same boast as you bro

 

[Djbowker]

If that fails, just sit down and cry.
Continually mention the words 'snake' 'end of the world' 'need more responsibility.''

Noone wants to deal with a crying teenager.

 

[smeejason]

I have always lived by this motto
" it is better to seek forgiveness than to ask permission"

 

[kamandakill]

^dunno if that'll work. Can you even buy snakes at 15? I thought minors could only get licensed for lizards? So ya'd have to make mum or dad get a license n buy it for you. Different states differnt rules though, where you from BD? Have you got a license that allows you to buy pythons?

 

[ronhalling]

Don't try and trick your Parents, remember they were 15 once too and know all the tricks, they have also had 15 years to know what you can and can't do, what kamandakill said about telling your parents 1 new Python fact per day also has merit as it shows you are genuinly trying to do the right thing, if you think you could not find 1 new fact every day for the rest of your life then in my opinion you are not ready. I have only been really into herping for the last 6 1/2 years and still what i know about Pythons would be the equivalant to 1 grain of sand on a beach, the previous 20 years i was very deep into Arachnids and in those 20 years i still feel i knew about 1/100th of what there was to know. Be honest to your parents and yourself, they will know if you are really ready to look after another life long term, and respect their decision, if they say no ask them can they honestly tell you why not, there is only 1 way you are going to get around this problem and that is for you to show them you are ready. ..............................Ron

 

[Trimeresurus]

I have always lived by this motto
" it is better to seek forgiveness than to ask permission"

Hahaha, true that.

 

[RedFox]

Can't really say I can offer much advice. I asked for a python from when I was 12 years old and it never happened. Mum has/had a terrible phobia of snakes. She couldn't even look at pictures of them without getting upset. Dad doesn't mind them. So I turned 18 moved out and then bought my first python for my 19th birthday.

I then had to move back in with my parents with my two pythons and am moving out again next week. Originally my adult was only allowed to stay if he never came out of my bed room and my hatchy's little click clack was to be kept in the laundry next to my room. That lasted about 2 weeks. Mum ended up naming my juvenile (Jeff -_-). She also was the one who suggested to put Jeff's enclosure in the lounge next to the TV so we could see him, and my other python in the dining room on display. She told me last week that she was going to miss them and would have to visit to see how big Jeff was getting. She still doesn't want to handle them, but loves watching them both in and out of the enclosure. Mum wishes she had allowed one earlier.

Like I said I don't have any advice but maybe my story might help with convincing.

Good luck.

 

[BDkeeper]

If that fails, just sit down and cry.
Continually mention the words 'snake' 'end of the world' 'need more responsibility.''

Noone wants to deal with a crying teenager.

Hahahahahaaha love this exept I'm a guy aha

Use

Whatever you do DONT nag or whine like a toddler, everyone hates that, stop asking for one altogether. Instead just keep talking about pythons and saying "WHEN I get a ptython...." talk about it like it IS going to happen even if you have to wait until you've grown up and moved out. Hopefully it doesn't come to that but make sure your parents know how serious you are and that you ARE going to get one even if you have to wait a long time. If you mention pythons at least once everyday then it won't take long for them to see just how keen you are and if you keep it up they will soon realise that it's not just a passing phase, its something you are genuinely passionate about. GOOD LUCK!

Yeah aha let's just say I was nagging a bit but that didn't work and my dad always says when I start talking about getting a snake "well when you move out you can get whatever you want" but yeah the way I'm going at school it's going to be a long time before I move out into a house

im in the same boast as you bro

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im in the same boast as you bro

No how you feel bro...... Literally

I have always lived by this motto
" it is better to seek forgiveness than to ask permission"

If all else fails I think I might need to start living by this motto aha

^dunno if that'll work. Can you even buy snakes at 15? I thought minors could only get licensed for lizards? So ya'd have to make mum or dad get a license n buy it for you. Different states differnt rules though, where you from BD? Have you got a license that allows you to buy pythons?

NSW you can get every type of lizard snake and turtle that isn't rare, venomous or hard to keep on a basic lisence wich (I already have) and yeah I can pretty much go out and get a snake myself

Can't really say I can offer much advice. I asked for a python from when I was 12 years old and it never happened. Mum has/had a terrible phobia of snakes. She couldn't even look at pictures of them without getting upset. Dad doesn't mind them. So I turned 18 moved out and then bought my first python for my 19th birthday.

I then had to move back in with my parents with my two pythons and am moving out again next week. Originally my adult was only allowed to stay if he never came out of my bed room and my hatchy's little click clack was to be kept in the laundry next to my room. That lasted about 2 weeks. Mum ended up naming my juvenile (Jeff -_-). She also was the one who suggested to put Jeff's enclosure in the lounge next to the TV so we could see him, and my other python in the dining room on display. She told me last week that she was going to miss them and would have to visit to see how big Jeff was getting. She still doesn't want to handle them, but loves watching them both in and out of the enclosure. Mum wishes she had allowed one earlier.

Like I said I don't have any advice but maybe my story might help with convincing.

Good luck.

Mines the opposite mum doesn't mind them but dad absolutely hates them with a passion. And yeah did help a little, thanks

Don't try and trick your Parents, remember they were 15 once too and know all the tricks, they have also had 15 years to know what you can and can't do, what kamandakill said about telling your parents 1 new Python fact per day also has merit as it shows you are genuinly trying to do the right thing, if you think you could not find 1 new fact every day for the rest of your life then in my opinion you are not ready. I have only been really into herping for the last 6 1/2 years and still what i know about Pythons would be the equivalant to 1 grain of sand on a beach, the previous 20 years i was very deep into Arachnids and in those 20 years i still feel i knew about 1/100th of what there was to know. Be honest to your parents and yourself, they will know if you are really ready to look after another life long term, and respect their decision, if they say no ask them can they honestly tell you why not, there is only 1 way you are going to get around this problem and that is for you to show them you are ready. ..............................Ron

I swear I'm ready to get one I've never wanted anything more than a snake. Monies not a problem cause I got a part time job, so I can afford what it will need. But as for the facts I will just have to look around more on this site and find some. Thanks

 

[ellenwalter]

I had the same problem. It took me a while to prove to my mum that they're actually beautiful creatures and quite gentle and low maintenance. I got my first snake at the start of the year and she absolutely loves him. Getting my second tomorrow and she's actually quite exited. Just keep doing what you're doing. It will work and she will warm up to it when you get one.

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If that fails, just sit down and cry.
Continually mention the words 'snake' 'end of the world' 'need more responsibility.''

Noone wants to deal with a crying teenager.

HAHAHAHAHAHA this is very true! I did this to get permission for a diamond but it sold the next day. So then I cried more. Hahahaha

 

[BDkeeper]

I had the same problem. It took me a while to prove to my mum that they're actually beautiful creatures and quite gentle and low maintenance. I got my first snake at the start of the year and she absolutely loves him. Getting my second tomorrow and she's actually quite exited. Just keep doing what you're doing. It will work and she will warm up to it when you get one.

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HAHAHAHAHAHA this is very true! I did this to get permission for a diamond but it sold the next day. So then I cried more. Hahahaha

Can you please explain how you convinced your mum to thinking that there beautiful creatures cause my dad at the moment whenever i start talking about them he doesn't wont to hear it and ten just walks of not giving me the chance to explain aha