whip snake. I think!

[Serpentes]

Good work on the ID Whyme, indeed it is a little whip snake, but not a little Demansia, which are whip snakes Common names are pretty useless in herpetology, hence why we sound like latin/greek dorks half the time

 

[whyme]

And to ACROCHORDUS, your exactly right. You shouldnt touch anything if you don't know what it is. Stupid clowns like me put pic's up of us handling interesting things out there without speaking of the dangers assocciated. Good on ya for having your wits about ya! Best bet is to look but don't touch!........AND TAKE A CAMERA!

 

[whyme]

Good work on the ID Whyme, indeed it is a little whip snake, but not a little Demansia, which are whip snakes Common names are pretty useless in herpetology, hence why we sound like latin/greek dorks half the time

Ha HA. I married a greek dork................................. OOps. But I luv her. HEE HEE

 

[Hemiaspis]

people always say that, I was bitten by a curl snake out west at lightning ridge a year or so ago, I didnt have any ill effects at all, not even swelling. maybe it did not inject venom, at the time I went by an outdated field guide which said mildy venomous.

Most of the field guides still state this. In the last few years we have looked at the venoms of some of the smaller elapid species, often with suprising results. Suta suta venom had both neurotoxic and myotoxic components.

We had a member of our team get bitten in the field by a Suta suta of about 30 cm long. A few hours later he collapsed, suffered paralysis and difficulty breathing and had to be taken to hospital, where he was treated with poly. Incredible to see how dramatically this blokes condition went sour.

All the best

 

[mrmikk]

...they do look quite similar to baby Eastern Brown Snakes!!!

My thoughts exactly

 

[herptrader]

Pretty game picking it up and holding it like this if you are unsure what it was...they do look quite similar to baby Eastern Brown Snakes!!! There was also someone killed by one of these little snakes a couple of years ago although I believe it was due to an allergic reaction.

Allergic reactions are not uncommon for whip snake bites. In addition to they guy that died I know of another well known herper that did hospital time as a result of a whip snake bite.

 

[Surfcop24]

Found this.. For those who were unsure about the venom of this snake... Thought you might be interested..

WCH Clinical Toxinology Resources

 

[Just_Joshin]

Found this.. For those who were unsure about the venom of this snake... Thought you might be interested..

WCH Clinical Toxinology Resources

Did you read the article or just look at the little graphic at the top. Basically they don't know squat about the venom, lol.

Venom General: Venom Neurotoxins
Unknown General: Venom Myotoxins
Unknown General: Venom Procoagulants
Unknown General: Venom Anticoagulants
Unknown General: Venom Haemorrhagins
Unknown General: Venom Nephrotoxins
Unknown General: Venom Cardiotoxins
Unknown General: Venom Necrotoxins
Unknown General: Venom Other
Unknown Back to top Clinical Effects General: Dangerousness
Unknown, but unlikely to cause significant envenoming, most unlikely to be dangerous. General: Rate of Envenoming: Unknown but likely to be low General: Untreated Lethality Rate: Unlikely to prove lethal General: Local Effects
Local pain & swelling General: Local Necrosis
Insufficient clinical reports to know General: General Systemic Effects
Insufficient clinical reports to know General: Neurotoxic Paralysis
Insufficient clinical reports to know General: Myotoxicity
Insufficient clinical reports to know General: Coagulopathy & Haemorrhages
Insufficient clinical reports to know General: Renal Damage
Insufficient clinical reports to know General: Cardiotoxicity
Insufficient clinical reports to know General: Other
Insufficient clinical reports to know

 

[JasonL]

I have been bitten by P. dwyeri... left me with a sore and slighly swollen finger, and I could feel the effects down to my wrist, the bite site felt like a deep tissue burn... P. dwyeri loose the plot at the drop of a hat and when they do they start chomping at anything that moves and a few things that don't.

 

[Fuscus]

For those who are wondering - this is what a 5 day brown looks like. Personally I would not have picked up the snake in question bare handed

 

[kensai]

I know someone bitten by a Parasuta Spectabalis, he reckons it was very painfull. article may be in an old newsletter on the SA Herp group site.

 

[jase75]

Iv been bitten at least 20 times by P. Dwyeri and never had anything more than some swelling and itchyness around the bite site.I think you would have to be really unlucky to have any serious effects from them.

 

[ryanharvey1993]

Iv been bitten at least 20 times by P. Dwyeri and never had anything more than some swelling and itchyness around the bite site.I think you would have to be really unlucky to have any serious effects from them.

my friend had the same effects, found 2 under a piece of tin out near merriwa, I handed him the cranky one:lol:

 

[JasonL]

I think you would have to be really unlucky to have any serious effects from them.

Yes, but plenty of "unlucky" people die from bee stings every year.... if your hours from anywhere it not a good spot to go into anaphylactic shock.... hey those little Dwyeri hang on for all it's worth eh?

 

[underbelly]

Just a tip. When you pick thing up it pays to hold the sharp end, not every thing has my placid nature.

 

[jase75]

Yes, but plenty of "unlucky" people die from bee stings every year.... if your hours from anywhere it not a good spot to go into anaphylactic shock.... hey those little Dwyeri hang on for all it's worth eh?

Yeah thats true, its not a good idea to get bitten by any venomous snake, im much more careful these days.They do like to hang on, the worst effects iv had is the itchyness around the bite site that sometimes can last for months.

 

[gavinator]

its not a WHIP lol its aRed Naped snake

 

[moosenoose]

its not a WHIP lol its aRed Naped snake

Surely you're joking? :lol: Definately a whip and very common throughout Victoria.

The venom isn't bad unless you cop an allegic reaction to it, and then you need some serious help FAST! No bite from ANY elapid is good news IMHO.

 

[gavinator]

Museum Victoria: Red-naped Snake

 

[Southside Morelia]

LMAO......josh :lol::lol:

Did you read the article or just look at the little graphic at the top. Basically they don't know squat about the venom, lol.