Why the RSPCA doesn't have time for protecting Herps

[Moclobe]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/20/choke_a_chicken/

 

[stiffler]

The RSPCA is a useless organisation that people should be very careful about supporting. They have appeared that many times on shows like a current affair for their questionable practices including even been sued to court for over $120,000 and proved to be liars and making up false evidence.
My friend owns a dog training company and he was training a dog to stop barking. The owners decided to drop it off at the RSPCA as they didn't want it anymore. So my friend rings them up and told them that he had spent some time with the dog and if it didn't pass all their tests for re-homing rather than have it put down he would take the dog. Hahaha, the RSPCA told him the dog was now their "property" and if it didn't pass their tests or get re-homed then they would put it down. He argued to no result.
I will not support this group of wolfs in sheeps clothing, ever.

 

[herptrader]

They are probably concerned that it has bird flu.

 

[Guest]

They are worried about choking a chook???

So what about the child abuse that poor Elmo suffers every day by millions all over the world?? I think the childrens welfare people should do something about that! All that tickeling is a bit out there for my liking!!! LMAO

 

[Hickson]

Well, I'm afraid I have to go against the thread here and agree with the RSPCA on this one.

The MD of Jaycar described it as a novelty and "a bit of a giggle", but it's a toy marketed to children over the age of three, and as a toy for kids I think it is very inappropriate. As a novelty for adults it's OK, but not for children who are still very impressionable and may not understand the concept of 'novelty toy' as oppsoed to reality.

Just my 2 cents worth.



Hix

 

[herptrader]

I think you do have a point their Hixy.

I still have major issues with the RSPCA. From their name you would think the would be interested in all animals but my observations suggest that they are basically against captive animal husbandry unless it has 4 legs and covered in fur. The really sad thing is the many stories that suggest they pull media stunts to attract the publicity that can pull in donations.

We need animal advocacy and cruelty protection measures but not the way the RSPCA do it.

I have heard many times people complain about how government regulation affects herpers. I think these complaints would prove to be just a murmur if the regulation was outsourced to an organisation like the RSPCA? and it could happen.

 

[alexr]

Yeah - and I have heard that you can go blind... (or was that feeding the chicken?).

I really don't think that anyone would buy it as a toy for a child...

Anyway there are plenty of other toys that are just as inappropriate - what about "Hungry Hippos" for example. (At least if a child tries to do that to a hippo it will be over pretty quickly...)

 

[JeffHardy]

I'm with you on this one Hix.

The RSPCA is a private animal welfare advocacy organisation and charity that (at least in NSW) has been granted authority by state governments to enforce animal protection laws that were passed by and are administered by the state government.

 

[stiffler]

I'm with you on this one Hix.

The RSPCA is a private animal welfare advocacy organisation and charity that (at least in NSW) has been granted authority by state governments to enforce animal protection laws that were passed by and are administered by the state government.

And this one of the biggest problems. NO goverment should give ANY private company any authority over civilians. In the USA all police departments have animal wefare police officers. It should be this way. The RSPCA is an organisation which has been proven in court to lie and make up stories, certainly it doesn't have the credability to enforce any laws.

They were also collecting royalties from farm laid egg producers and when ACA went into these places they were worse than any battery hen operation with dead chooks everywhere that were eaten by other chooks, no daylight and the dust was so bad it would cause problems with the chooks. And these were RSPCA inspected and given their seal of approval. The sooner the goverments enforce these laws themselfs the better.

 

[Sdaji]

The RSPCA is one of the most terrible organisations in the country. They frequently give out fines and sometimes worse to innocent people. The do more harm than good and it costs the community (mostly through naive people donating, because they don't realise the damage they're causing) a lot of money to do so. You could go on for pages and pages about the money they waste and the harm they cause (and many people have done so), but one thing which should get every member of this site against them is that if they had their way it would be illegal to keep pet reptiles (or possums, dunnarts, etc etc etc etc etc).

Yes, if they have their way, none of us will be able to keep our snakes or lizards, but they'll continue to encourage people to have cats. As bad as that is, it's not the worst which has come from the RSPCA. I strongly urge everyone here to oppose this terrible organisation in any way you can (short of violence etc) and encourage others to do the same.

 

[Wrasse]

I bought a chicken

 

[herptrader]

I started a separate thread in an attempt to detemine what an alternative (to the RSPCA) animal advocasy group may look like:

http://www.aussiepythons.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=13711

 

[bigbing]

UM ...... How am I supposed to dispath my chickens before I feed them to my snake .......

 

[Sdaji]

UM ...... How am I supposed to dispath my chickens before I feed them to my snake .......

There's a new training aid available, check the link.

 

[westhamsc]

lmao good one sdaji

 

[westhamsc]

well as soon as i seen this today i went to jaycar in frankston and got one of these guys and let me tell you there funny as what was even funnyer was when the dog grabed it and ran of with it

 

[instar]

Crikey! Stone the crows! ....(can we still say that?)

Exclaimer~ No crow was harmed in the uttering of the above sentence, any similary to crows living or dead or coincidental. :roll: :lol:

 

[zulu]

re Why

I'm with you on this one Hix.

The RSPCA is a private animal welfare advocacy organisation and charity that (at least in NSW) has been granted authority by state governments to enforce animal protection laws that were passed by and are administered by the state government.

Right Jeff thats a great argument,its more like you go to the emergency ward at nepean hospital and little kids are laying on the floor waiting for treatment very sick and the RSPCA is spending money on a toy chicken campain :roll:

 

[Hickson]

re Why

I'm with you on this one Hix.

The RSPCA is a private animal welfare advocacy organisation and charity that (at least in NSW) has been granted authority by state governments to enforce animal protection laws that were passed by and are administered by the state government.

Right Jeff thats a great argument,its more like you go to the emergency ward at nepean hospital and little kids are laying on the floor waiting for treatment very sick and the RSPCA is spending money on a toy chicken campain :roll:

Zulu,

Firstly, Jeff wasn't making an argument, simply stating the situation so everybody understands it. This suggests to me that the RSPCA is different in each State, and obviously the ones in Vic. and SA appear to be bad (from what members have said). I've never had a problem with the NSW RSPCA.

Secondly, I'm not sure I understand your argument about the Nepean Hospital and what it has to do with the RSPCA and toy chickens. Are suggesting the RSPCA go into Nepean Hospital and assess the cruelty to the kids on the floor?



Hix

 

[Slateman]

Well, I'm afraid I have to go against the thread here and agree with the RSPCA on this one.

The MD of Jaycar described it as a novelty and "a bit of a giggle", but it's a toy marketed to children over the age of three, and as a toy for kids I think it is very inappropriate. As a novelty for adults it's OK, but not for children who are still very impressionable and may not understand the concept of 'novelty toy' as oppsoed to reality.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Hix

I agree with you Hix on this one. I think that children don't need how to choke chooks education.
Regarding sick children around the world, what they have to do with RSPCA if I understand RSPCA is not child care oriented.