Would a uniform, nationwide licensing system be beneficial?

[mysnakesau]

I voted no. While I sympathise with Tassie and WA for their restrictions, why do they have those restrictions? Are they afraid of "weeds" wiping out their natives if they were to to escape into the wild? And aren't some species not allowed into Victoria as well? I have read somewhere, that while our snakes are Australian Natives, the likes of a jungle python can become a pest in another state, and if it were to thrive stronger than the locals it could endanger their survival. You can't even send plants to TAssie or WA. So perhaps, a nation-wide licensing system won't work - at least you might want to find out why these places have the restrictions they do, before giving a yes or no answer to this question.

 

[Wally]

Delusions of grandeur. You won't be changing anything Revell13.

 

[Revell13]

I'm not asking about changing the laws or rules or regulations or anything like that. All I'm asking is wether a centralised LICENSING body would be beneficial, to have the NPWS look after all our licenses and details, but let the states keep their own rules and regulations, I'm really talking baby steps here guys, really really small amounts of change.

 

[Pilbarensis]

I just want to add my view into this topic and despite this being a yes or no topic I think other people should as well. This is a very important and controversial topic to hundreds of people across Australia and is worthy of a debate.

My belief though is that if this is done correctly and the system is put in place by intelligent people who understand not only Australia's biodiversity and ecosystems but also the views and opinions of native animal keepers across Australia it could be constructed in a way that not only allows us to keep a range of species (Would very much appreciate some more Varanids!) as well as breed them, but also has a well-thought out and understandable permit system so people with adequate knowledge and experience can collect species from the wild and introduce them into captivity.

Not only would a system such as this promote the keeping and breeding of native wildlife in Australia but it would also increase captive population levels of various species faced with habitat loss and an array of other dangers.This would have an impact on hundreds of people across the country and could well be the saviour to many different native species unique to our land.

However, this would only work if the people who design the system are intelligent and experienced, and preferably, are actually part of the community. Otherwise this could very well end up like the WA system.

Cheers, Scotty

EDIT: Also it would be done in such a way that it does not effect native species in the wild!

 

[Snowman]

I voted no. While I sympathise with Tassie and WA for their restrictions, why do they have those restrictions? Are they afraid of "weeds" wiping out their natives if they were to to escape into the wild? And aren't some species not allowed into Victoria as well? I have read somewhere, that while our snakes are Australian Natives, the likes of a jungle python can become a pest in another state, and if it were to thrive stronger than the locals it could endanger their survival. You can't even send plants to TAssie or WA. So perhaps, a nation-wide licensing system won't work - at least you might want to find out why these places have the restrictions they do, before giving a yes or no answer to this question.

Exactly. You cant treat all states the same. They arent the same and hopefully never will be. I'm glad that in WA I dont see starlings, sparrows, indian myners and a heap of other introduced species of birds and animals that plague the eastern states. WA is trying to keep anything that isnt native to WA out. I support that idea, however I would like more WA native reptiles on our keepers list.

 

[abnrmal91]

Baby steps are all well and good but there is a difference between baby steps and stumbling around in the dark. Sorry but you have no power over creating a different system, not only that but a poll on APS doesn't achieve anything either.

 

[Snowman]

I think a national herpetological society would be a good thing though. Something that has the countries top experts and is used to recomend keeping conditions and animals that can be kept as pets.

 

[Red-Ink]

Happy with the Mexican system despite the exorbitant price... just wish for a few more species on the list really

 

[Revell13]

Gah, I'll say it again, I'm not looking to change individual state policies and rules, I'm only seeing if people want a centralised licensing system.

 

[whatmeworry]

Sorry if I've misinterpreted something, but its coming across as though you're trying to revolutionise the legalities around owning reptiles, regardless of whether anyone else:

a) agrees with you
b) wants it

 

[Wally]

Gah, I'll say it again, I'm not looking to change individual state policies and rules, I'm only seeing if people want a centralised licensing system.

No! I do not want some dick in Canberra telling me what I can and can't do. We get enough of that already.

 

[Elapidae1]

I think nationwide brothel licensing would be a massive leap in tidying up the sex industry.
Who agrees? Y/N answers only please.

 

[Revell13]

Sorry if I've misinterpreted something, but its coming across as though you're trying to revolutionise the legalities around owning reptiles, regardless of whether anyone else:

a) agrees with you
b) wants it

Yes, you have quite missed the whole point. I'm not trying to revolutionise anything, or change any rules or regulations, all I'm after are peoples yes or no thoughts on wether it would be beneficial or not for NPWS to hold all the licensing details.

 

[Snowman]

While we are at it lets get a nation wide Electrical system too. I hate having to change my license in each state.

 

[mje772003]

I said yes if the system was based on QLD or NT Laws

 

[Revell13]

No! I do not want some dick in Canberra telling me what I can and can't do. We get enough of that already.

Not rules mate, just the guy you pay your license fee's to. Its no real change tbh, just the letterhead.

 

[Ramsayi]

Yeah would be great.Let me know when you get it sorted.By the end of the year would be good.

 

[Snowman]

Yes, you have quite missed the whole point. I'm not trying to revolutionise anything, or change any rules or regulations, all I'm after are peoples yes or no thoughts on wether it would be beneficial or not for NPWS to hold all the licensing details.

NPWS is only found in NSW. Duh!!!

 

[mysnakesau]

......to have the NPWS look after all our licenses and details, but let the states keep their own rules and regulations, I'm really talking baby steps here guys, really really small amounts of change.

They do already, don't they? Across the country in every state you need a license. And each state does have their own rules and regulations. Some states allow capture of common species from the wild, others don't. ANd as I already mentioned, some states have restrictions on species that are allowed inside the border To me, sounds like the system is already in place. I thought you were asking about one set of rules right across Australia. I don't usually follow the political threads but to me, I can't see how one set of rules across the country can work while each state has their own wildife and conservation issues. They need to protect our natives, but their own local natives will take priority.

 

[abnrmal91]

Not rules mate, just the guy you pay your license fee's to. Its no real change tbh, just the letterhead.

What's the point in changing the letterhead unless it achieves something of benefit. Government departments already change names too often.

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Once again a useless/pointless poll on APS, who would have thought it.