Are you religious?

[abbott75]

But God is supposed to be ABOVE feelings of bitterness etc. He is ALL FORGIVING. And if he made them Perfect, why did they eat the fruit? He obviously stuffed up! Or if he gave them free will, he needed to accept what they did with it.

Why create something, give it free will, then tell it NOT to do something, and get angry when it does? I think god would have better things to do!

We were created with free will. The gift of free will. Remember, God has the power to force people to follow him.

They had freedom to do whatever they wanted, just don't touch that tree! Being perfect, they knew it was wrong, but they did it anyway. It was not an imperfect mistake, it was wilful disobedience. There is a difference.

 

[dailyskin]

Not six literal days, six periods of time.

Six periods of time? Then why doesn't the bible say that? Why say days if that is not acurate?

 

[dailyskin]

They had freedom to do whatever they wanted, just don't touch that tree! Being perfect, they knew it was wrong, but they did it anyway. It was not an imperfect mistake, it was wilful disobedience. There is a difference.

Then they were not Perfect.

 

[DanTheMan]

What kind of a dick would hang these delicious fruit in front of them and tell them they cant eat it?
Why couldn't they eat it? That's what fruits for? We eat it and spread its seeds.
God sounds like a bit of a dictator to me. Never have like him.

 

[abbott75]

Oh. Dear. How do you explain the clear and extensive scientific evidence such as carbon dating and fossils?

Sorry, I misread that one. What I meant was mankind is only a few thousand years old.

I have no idea on the actual age of the earth. My mistake.

 

[Dodie]

We were created with free will. The gift of free will. Remember, God has the power to force people to follow him.

LOL :lol:

 

[Hooglabah]

a better statement would be recorded history is only a few thousand years old mankind has been proven to be around up to 10,000 years bc, if my memory serves me correctly from history class Myians Azteks ect ect ect.

please correct me if im wrong history buffs

 

[Dodie]

Humans are around 100 000 years

The earth is 4.5 billion.

I believe we evolved from a primordial soup, a mix of carbon, phosphorous, nitrogen, oxygen and hydrogen.

 

[dailyskin]

a better statement would be recorded history is only a few thousand years old mankind has been proven to be around up to 10,000 years bc, if my memory serves me correctly from history class Myians Azteks ect ect ect.

please correct me if im wrong history buffs

That is quite correct.

Not to mention the presence of Neolithic man etc. as shown quite clearly in fossils and carbon dated. You know, all those men during the process of EVOLUTION :lol:

 

[Dodie]

I should of stated - our ancestors are around 100 000, not too sure on Homo sapiens...

 

[abbott75]

What kind of a dick would hang these delicious fruit in front of them and tell them they cant eat it?
Why couldn't they eat it? That's what fruits for? We eat it and spread its seeds.
God sounds like a bit of a dictator to me. Never have like him.

The Garden was full of fruit trees, and there was only one they couldn't eat from. (Gen 2:16: And Jehovah God also laid this command upon the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it")

Then they were not Perfect.

How do you mean? Perfect does not mean not able to do wrong. It means free from vices, free from sickness and death, pain.

I asked a specific question about the existence of Jesus. The Bible cannot be used as a credible historical source in this instance. Whether or not the Bible is accurate in other instances is irrelevent here.
What university have you studied at that is telling you that the Bible is more accurate that secular sources?

So I can't use the Bible as a historical source, even though multiple times it has been proven by secular history after centuries of doubt? The Bible's history is extremely accurate, down to minor details. Why, then, should we discount the existence of Jesus?

And, if that isn't enough, respected ancient historians (such as Flavius Josephus and Carius Cornelius Tacitus) refer to Jesus.

 

[dailyskin]

I should of stated - our ancestors are around 100 000, not too sure on Homo sapiens...

Yes it's quite complicated because there are all the different branches of evolution! oops there is that word again!

 

[dailyskin]

The Garden was full of fruit trees, and there was only one they couldn't eat from. (Gen 2:16: And Jehovah God also laid this command upon the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it")

but WHY?! It is so ridiculous and bizarre! Why put something Edible there if they weren't supposed to eat it? What was the point? To test them?

 

[DanTheMan]

We were created with free will. The gift of free will. Remember, God has the power to force people to follow him.

That's a bit contradictory.
But any way, if he has this power, why are there all these atheists such as myself? And all these rapists and murderers?
Why doesn't he use his powers to make these people follow him so they don't "sin" any more?

 

[Dodie]

Maybe that's the bad evil fruit that turned Redbellies kid gay...

 

[Dodie]

That's a bit contradictory.
But any way, if he has this power, why are there all these atheists such as myself? And all these rapists and murderers?
Why doesn't he use his powers to make these people follow him so they don't "sin" any more?

Cause he works in mysterious ways duh!

 

[abbott75]

but WHY?! It is so ridiculous and bizarre! Why put something Edible there if they weren't supposed to eat it? What was the point? To test them?

The tree was a representation of God's right to rule Earth.By eating of that particular tree, they were helping themselves to something that only God has the right to have.

 

[dailyskin]

That's a bit contradictory.
But any way, if he has this power, why are there all these atheists such as myself? And all these rapists and murderers?
Why doesn't he use his powers to make these people follow him so they don't "sin" any more?

Yes. Please answer this, anyone! If he can force anyone to do anything - Why are babies and children being tortured all across the world?

 

[abbott75]

That's a bit contradictory.
But any way, if he has this power, why are there all these atheists such as myself? And all these rapists and murderers?
Why doesn't he use his powers to make these people follow him so they don't "sin" any more?

Because we have free will! :lol:

 

[dailyskin]

The tree was a representation of God's right to rule Earth.By eating of that particular tree, they were helping themselves to something that only God has the right to have.

Then why did he put it there? Why put his special God juice in some tasty apples?