Callous people.

[GeckoJosh]

This has got to be a wind up, she is not even making valid arguments

 

[TahneeMaree]

This has got to be a wind up, she is not even making valid arguments

It's just a name calling thread, pretty much saying that anyone who has seen/watched an animal being eaten by another animal dead/alive on a docco/in person is callous.

 

[antaresia_boy]

But Mrs Barton-Ilic defended the actions of her family, saying the snake had half the wallaby in its mouth by the time they noticed the incident.

What exactly could they have done?
I don't know what I would have done if I had seen the beginning, I would have had trouble seeing the mother in distress. But there was nothing they could do if the wallaby was already dead, which it obviously was if it was half swallowed.

 

[mouse_has_faith]

Point 5 - I am not stupid enough to know this doens't happen in the wild, anyone who thought that, I WOULD call stupid, it's a logical reality, but for the family to stand by and do nothing and still stand and watch, is a CALLOUS act.

This same woman, at the end of the first article, said she feared for her children's safety. Whether or not her fear is legitimate, she believes that the snake was capable of inflicting serious harm. So, since when is a dead wallaby worth endangering a human life?

 

[Ninjaette]

It's just one of those things that happen in life, unfortunately. One can't help but feel upset by it though. That's just the way we're wired so please don't pan out on DipC. Even those of you who are asking her whether she owns a snake or eats meat etc would surely feel even a tiny sense of discomfort at witnessing a 'difficult' situation such as this.

Unless you have no conscience of course...

Hmmm... Might just leave it there.

 

[mouse_has_faith]

Ninjaette, I think you put it best.

 

[Rickdejong]

Do you eat or buy meat?

lol was thinking that

 

[PhilK]

This is ridiculous....

It is not a callous act, it is FASCINATING act of nature. I definitely would have watched, and probably taken photos too.. just the same as I take pleasure from watching a spider wrap up a fly in its web, or my goannas taking down live roaches... fascinating parts of nature that I am lucky enough to see!

I would not interfere with a snake eating a meal, ever. That's life. That snake has to eat, so why do you think its OK to take away his food? How long would a wallaby joey last in the coils of a scrub python? A very short time, meaning it would be dead if you saved it anyway...

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, yes, but sometimes they are just ridiculous opinions

 

[Rickdejong]

.....gotta loe that

 

[Ninjaette]

This is ridiculous....

It is not a callous act, it is FASCINATING act of nature. I definitely would have watched, and probably taken photos too.. just the same as I take pleasure from watching a spider wrap up a fly in its web, or my goannas taking down live roaches... fascinating parts of nature that I am lucky enough to see!

I would not interfere with a snake eating a meal, ever. That's life. That snake has to eat, so why do you think its OK to take away his food? How long would a wallaby joey last in the coils of a scrub python? A very short time, meaning it would be dead if you saved it anyway...

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, yes, but sometimes they are just ridiculous opinions

Why waste your time saying that everyone is entitled to their own opinion when you're just going to turn around and tell them their opinions are "just ridiculous"?
Why not just get straight to the point by saying that you think that what other people think is *stupid* because really, that's what you're trying to convey, right?

 

[PhilK]

Why bother saying that everyone is entitled to their own opinion when you're just going to tell them their opinions are "just ridiculous"

It wasn't meant to be serious.. notice the wink face?

DipC I'd like you to explain this little bit: you said you feel compassion for all animals equally.. So why are you on the wallaby's side? Where's the compassion for the snake?

I understand you are entitled to your opinion but surely you can see the cold hard facts. The snake MUST eat to survive.. how is a snake starving to death any better than a wallaby dying? Who are you to decide the snake isn't allowed to eat?

I love all animals too, its why I'm becoming a vet, but I know what the food chain is and how it works.. you really can't get past it.

You feed live crickets to your lizards, remember.

 

[Snake_Whisperer]

How can you own a snake and have that attitude about a wild one getting some grub?
and besides they havent learnt how to use the hungry jacks drive thru yet

Lol! You're incorrigible, but hilarious!

Circle of life. Risk to whomever was watching to interfere would be high, not to mention the snake or the wallaby.

Interesting thread to be sure.

 

[Ninjaette]

It wasn't meant to be serious.. notice the wink face?

DipC I'd like you to explain this little bit: you said you feel compassion for all animals equally.. So why are you on the wallaby's side? Where's the compassion for the snake?

I understand you are entitled to your opinion but surely you can see the cold hard facts. The snake MUST eat to survive.. how is a snake starving to death any better than a wallaby dying? Who are you to decide the snake isn't allowed to eat?

I love all animals too, its why I'm becoming a vet, but I know what the food chain is and how it works.. you really can't get past it.

You feed live crickets to your lizards, remember.

Being a good vet will also require that you have compassion. In your career as a vet there will be *many* a situation where people are going to be upset because their beloved pets have become ill or have passed away from "natural causes" and I very much doubt you will have ANY patients left if you tell them that their pets have died because of "Nature" and that they should just get over it.
Granted, you are spot on about nature just doing it's thing but people have every right to feel uneasy about things like this as they ARE distressing in the human world. Like I said previously, people are wired to feel these emotions. You don't have any place telling someone how to feel.

Just a lesson in understanding human nature, and that nothing is ever as simple as you think it is. I notice this is a VERY common trait in males IN GENERAL. Men seem to always see things in black and white and not the shades of grey. Guess you can't be blamed as it is in your genetic make-up.

 

[Lonewolf]

if anything your CALLOUS one wonting that poor lil joey to suffer just for the sake of your feelings
you ask me thats prity selfish

 

[cosmicwolf4]

It's just one of those things that happen in life, unfortunately. One can't help but feel upset by it though. That's just the way we're wired so please don't pan out on DipC. Even those of you who are asking her whether she owns a snake or eats meat etc would surely feel even a tiny sense of discomfort at witnessing a 'difficult' situation such as this.

Unless you have no conscience of course...

Hmmm... Might just leave it there.

I agree with all you say. I am one of those people who can't watch docos when animals are suffering, ie; They set up docos where it's obvious that the victim has been put there just to capture on film.

I see normal hunt and prey behaviour as part of the circle of life. Animals are created as predator and prey, the have to hunt to survive.

Now having said all that, I agree with DipC, I couldn't stand and watch it, nor could I film it. I find it personally distressing to watch a mother try to save her baby, the fact that the baby was already dead is irrelevant to the mother.
I realise the snake was simply doing what he does and accept that. My personal choice is NOT to watch it.
I don't believe that DipC should be treated like a leper for her beliefs. She is stating her feelings, just as each of us have the choice to do. She doesn't deserve some of the comments left by thoughtless and nasty people here. Constructive critisism works better than flaming, perhaps an explanation of why we feel as we do, rather than shooting someone down for stating a belief.

 

[TahneeMaree]

stating feelings and calling people callous for enjoying watching it where there it has been stated that the family in fact were upset about it, are two different things. I saw nowhere in the articles that is said they "enjoyed" watching it. So I do not believe they deserve to be called callous. They took pics... so what, we don't call names of forum members who have pics of their snakes feeding.

 

[cris]

Just a lesson in understanding human nature, and that nothing is ever as simple as you think it is. I notice this is a VERY common trait in males IN GENERAL. Men seem to always see things in black and white and not the shades of grey. Guess you can't be blamed as it is in your genetic make-up.

Its really very clear cut, snakes eat animals, some are even cute and furry much like the animals humans eat. Im sorry for being just a dumb male and thinking logically rather than running on emotion without any common sense or grasp on reality.

 

[garycahill]

Was the mother really there?
Pic or it didn't happen!
After all, there are multiple pics of the joey getting eaten & none of the mother trying to save it.
Seems a little odd to me, some might even say media sensationalism.
If you are stupid enough to get between an alleged 4m scrubby & a joey, I wish you all the best.
Hope your health insurance is paid up.

 

[Ninjaette]

Its really very clear cut, snakes eat animals, some are even cute and furry much like the animals humans eat. Im sorry for being just a dumb male and thinking logically rather than running on emotion without any common sense or grasp on reality.

Ah. Forgive my ignorance and please don't be sorry. *I'm* sorry that you have to put up with emotional people. Must be difficult for you to live amongst those who are clearly not as highly evolved as yourself, who are evidently mentally deficient and incapable of having any common sense and any sense of reality because of their emotions. They, along with myself could really learn a lesson or two from your good self. Kudos.

I'll make a note to vote for you when they announce the nominations for Australians of the year for Australia day.

 

[GeckoJosh]

Ah. Forgive my ignorance and please don't be sorry. *I'm* sorry that you have to put up with emotional people. Must be difficult for you to live amongst those who are clearly not as highly evolved as yourself, who are evidently mentally deficient and incapable of having any common sense and any sense of reality because of their emotions. They, along with myself could really learn a lesson or two from your good self. Kudos.

I'll make a note to vote for you when they announce the nominations for Australians of the year on Australia day.

how the hell did this turn from saving the fluffy wallaby from the evil snake to a battle of the sexes?