hi everyone, sorry about the lenght of this post, but as there were a few shots fired while i was away i would like to take the oportunity to return some of my own.
first i would like to appologize to any person who may have felt i tried to discredit them i say it how it is and people always know where they stand,perhaps my biggest fault,but if i am wrong i take pride in stating the fact.like it or hate it ,it's just my opinion.i only open my mouth when i believe i'm right or i trust my source of info[someone you look up to ad provided the info in regards to diamond cross jungle lines that i refered to at another time].my grandfather once said,"Listen to everyone,learn from anybody but when its time to talk, be correct and prepared to back it up on all levels."this has molded my life.Hence the amount of posts by me on this site.call me what you will,but i prefer to sort diagreements out on the flat,usually over quickly but not an option here.
i do not wish to discredit you ad, you seem to have done a pretty good job of it yourself on this site and to be setting up some bigger fish to fry.to all the people who have contacted me and posted on this thread ,no i don't really take him serious either and be aware everyone that just because you have done something for decades doesn't mean you know everything, you can still learn from those who don't have the years behind them.never be afraid to put forward ideas or think what you have to say is silly,this is the first thing i say to my trainee keepers and after 1yr some are of more benefit to the animals and myself than some of my senior keepers.your motivation ad is totally to stir but you have taught me nothing.i know you have been waitng to have a crack at me because i pulled you into line on atr.so hear it goes.
i have to prove nothing to you ad or biguy about gtp locale and honestly would not take pleasure in you proving yourself wrong .if you thought we didn't check,research and double check with nwps before we handed over 30 grand then you are wrong again.they are deemed aussie with dna proof and the safest line in the country.people brought gtp's into qld on an international licence,very risky.If you bothered to glance at ultimates site you may learn something yourselves, and going with that if you intend quoting greg maxwells book on gtp's please do so to its full extent. As you would know it lists the recognised area forms for gtp's and one of thoses area forms is listed as The cape york ( Merauke) race. That being because it is nearly imposible to tell the difference via d.n.a at this stage and has been known to have been that way for some time. the write up on the cape york (merauke) race also states how similar there apearence is to the aru race in that it features lime green animals with white dorsal markings, and frequently with blue on the ventral and lateral areas.It also goes on to state many more very relevent points which sadly we dont have the room to attach to this post but on his site we think most of this information is there to be read by all, So even people without this leading book on the subject have the oportunity to browse the information. To try and pass judgment on a pic taken as a happy snap, of a yearling animal at the time, of a animal that goes through the most dramatic changes in both colour and pattern from hatchling to adult is ill conceived to say the least. So on that note ad you pay the fee to the sa museum for dna testing,send us the receipt and we will send them a slough.That way we will all know that the skin is being sent to the right place with the rights results being returned. Frankly i would have a little problem sending you the skin to pass on as its very much out of the trust range that you would fit into. We believe siblings of our animals have been tested by the same institution and were deemed to be exactly what they are stated as.personally i would put my money away towards one of my future legally deemed aussie gtp hatchlings.
We would like to take the oportunity to thank you guys on getting this topic running so hot, As im sure tim and donna from ultimate reptiles would as well, the spin off from this thread has been unbeleivable for us. Now alot more people know just how safe this line is compared to the others, with an amazing amount of people looking to be kept upto date on how this goes with the hopes of us starting a waiting list for offspring in the future.
i beleive in the amnesty because i love our fauna,so much so that if our gtp's were not aussie and on an international licence i would be the first to take them in as demand for them in zoos is high and this would ensure there survival.perhaps they could come to our zoo.rules are rules and i have a very good professional working relationship with npws,the fact is they are the safest line and they are that for a reason as stated.at the end of the day i don't have breeding experience with gtp's ad but you obviously have faith in the fact that i will,thankyou, but commercial gain was not really the motivation for getting them[who wouldn't want a gtp]
but it would be nice to get the 30 000 back.with all the info you read and the limitted advice in this country we have done bloody well to get them to this stage[many people suffered losses] legally they can be reproduced and that is the underlying factor.
i dont have to promote the rest of my animals ,they sell themselves all in 72 hrs this year.i sold less than half of what i bred,could of sold a 100 if i had them and enquiries are a almost daily,over 120.i may not breed jungles this year, but could produce around 100,so its not a financial thing for me.infact i refused several people this year because i didn't feel they were suitable to the species and helped them find what would be with other breeders.i can send you the e-mails ad.i treat new time herpers this way because of the many negative stories i've heard about the biguys dealings.
P.S..bigguy is it true you are 6foot7 and 150 kgs. Just a guess from your user name..
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