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Wow, some harsh critics on here.
I've broken lotsa laws, should I be dead?
He's a criminal, nah he's a kid doing what kids do.
He wasn't out here stealing money for a drug habit off little old ladies.
Lighten up.
 
We get suicides regularly (couple a month). The suicides are rarely broadcast on the news, it's only the accidents that make the news normally.

The only suicide by train I've seen in the news was about the suicidal man that was hit by the train I was on. The Geelong advertiser had a short article about it with a photo and a phone number for people suffering with depression. The man's death notice was put in the paper the same day the article was, but said his death was the result of an "accident" but it was certainly not an accident. I can understand the death notice saying that though, not many people would want to have a notice in the paper saying their loved one took their own life.
 
I feel for the Train driver, having been one myself many years ago. You may not believe it, but killing someone, regardless if you were responsible or not is quite harrowing. Breath testing the driver??? What did the police think? The driver swerved for him or could have done something to avoid the accident?
 
I feel for the Train driver, having been one myself many years ago. You may not believe it, but killing someone, regardless if you were responsible or not is quite harrowing. Breath testing the driver??? What did the police think? The driver swerved for him or could have done something to avoid the accident?

Breathtesting the crew is automatic and required by law, doesn't mean they were or are suspected of anything.

Wow, some harsh critics on here.
I've broken lotsa laws, should I be dead?
He's a criminal, nah he's a kid doing what kids do.
He wasn't out here stealing money for a drug habit off little old ladies.
Lighten up.

Breaking laws is one thing, trespassing to cause willful destruction of property, resulting in a multi million dollar yearly cleanup bill, and contributing money from your pay in that bit called income tax is something else. Also trespassing on railway property to cause vandalism is criminal. It's what kids do is it? I never vandalised govt or public property, my family and friends never did either! Maybe if people and magistrates stopped being so bloody soft on this behaviour and accepting it as a part of life, we'd all be better off.
 
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5 idiots born every minute...

You've been in the maternity ward and counted them have you?

Breathtesting the crew is automatic and required by law, doesn't mean they were or are suspected of anything.



Breaking laws is one thing, trespassing to cause willful destruction of property, resulting in a multi million dollar yearly cleanup bill, and contributing money from your pay in that bit called income tax is something else. Also trespassing on railway property to cause vandalism is criminal. It's what kids do is it? I never vandalised govt or public property, my family and friends never did either! Maybe if people and magistrates stopped being so bloody soft on this behaviour and accepting it as a part of life, we'd all be better off.

Wow this one kid has been very busy.
 
Dumb enough to do it.....too dumb to learn from it. Another flaw in the gene pool dispensed with.

There will be more.

Well said

All the dude probably wanted to do was to make his art. As a result, he died. How is that anyone's fault?

It's his fault. No one else's and now he won't make that mistake again.
 
Yes there certainly is isn't there atothej09:rolleyes:
How on earth can some of you people be so callous, you make me sick to my stomach to think there are actually people on this earth as cold & heartless as some of you.
 
Breathtesting the crew is automatic and required by law, doesn't mean they were or are suspected of anything.



Breaking laws is one thing, trespassing to cause willful destruction of property, resulting in a multi million dollar yearly cleanup bill, and contributing money from your pay in that bit called income tax is something else. Also trespassing on railway property to cause vandalism is criminal. It's what kids do is it? I never vandalised govt or public property, my family and friends never did either! Maybe if people and magistrates stopped being so bloody soft on this behaviour and accepting it as a part of life, we'd all be better off.

A.C.A.B that is all
 
All the dude probably wanted to do was to make his art. As a result, he died. How is that anyone's fault?

Its his own fault by definition. Doesn't mean he deserved it but he paid the ultimate price for his poor decision making.
 
Breathtesting the crew is automatic and required by law, doesn't mean they were or are suspected of anything.



Breaking laws is one thing, trespassing to cause willful destruction of property, resulting in a multi million dollar yearly cleanup bill, and contributing money from your pay in that bit called income tax is something else. Also trespassing on railway property to cause vandalism is criminal. It's what kids do is it? I never vandalised govt or public property, my family and friends never did either! Maybe if people and magistrates stopped being so bloody soft on this behaviour and accepting it as a part of life, we'd all be better off.

Mate, he was vandalising a tunnel . HE DOESNT DESERVE TO DIE !!! I already gave you the example of the rapist. Youngsters make mistakes, hell i wasnt no angel. They grow and learn, unfortunetely this poor guy will never get to grow and learn. May he R.I.P, and i will definetely say a prayer for him before i sleep.
 
At the end of the day it was his own fault. He obviously didn't deserve it as a punishment for that particular crime but there is no one else to blame but him. Now there is a family grieving the loss of a son/brother/nephew etc, a train driver who has been subjected to the direct death of another person and people like Dan who signed up to fix trains but now have to clean up. All because he wanted to spray paint a wall that didn't belong to him in a place he shouldn't have been. I don't think anyone would argue that it isn't a tragedy (ok maybe some of the people in this thread might) but the fact is that through someone's thoughtlessness, a lot of lives have been affected very negatively. None of whom the individual will be held accountable for. That's how I look at it anyway. Maybe it's "cold" or "heartless" but they are the facts as I see them
 
Yes Dan I get that it's his own fault but that doesn't make it ok to speak about him like he was just nothing as some people have done in this thread. He was someones child,brother nephew,grandchild & no doubt a friend of many. No he won't be held accountable because he already paid with his life.
Sometimes people should just learn to say nothing if all they can add is nasty comments & if some of you can't understand that then I feel sorry for you that you were never taught any morals.
R.I.P Tre
 
Yes Dan I get that it's his own fault but that doesn't make it ok to speak about him like he was just nothing as some people have done in this thread. He was someones child,brother nephew,grandchild & no doubt a friend of many. No he won't be held accountable because he already paid with his life.
Sometimes people should just learn to say nothing if all they can add is nasty comments & if some of you can't understand that then I feel sorry for you that you were never taught any morals.
R.I.P Tre

Well said mate, people making flippant comments about the death of a young bloke commiting a a "graffiti" crime
are living in a different world to me. Methinks they need to get out more. I have huge empathy for the people who are traumatised as a result of this accident, there are no winners.
 
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hope your ok dan,having to clean that sort of thing up can leave you traumatised,its good to talk to the right people about it to debrief over what you have seen.
Also RIP young 18 year old, graffiti in a railway tunnel isnt the worst crime people should lighten up,and respect grieving
families
 
I am fine its not the first time I have seen it and it wont be the last. That stuff doesn't bother me (too much) but its still not something I want to deal with if I have a choice. Dealt with it like most night shift workers would, a beer with breakfast (technically my dinner) then a sleep.
 
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