Don't graffiti in train tunnels

[Exotic_Doc]

Its good that you got a strong heart abnrmal91. I remember a car accident me and my brother had last year. Guy on a harley ran a red light, as our light turned green we pulled off and hit him head on with the speed he was going he flew across the intersection and went through the windscreen of a 4wd waiting on the set of lights across from us. He copped it pretty bad with permanent metal rods and screws in both his legs. I couldnt sleep for a month after it, kept seeing him go through that windscreen every time i tried to sleep.Dealing with death is something i really dont look forward too, working the thin blue line

 

[Snakewoman]

At the end of the day it was his own fault. He obviously didn't deserve it as a punishment for that particular crime but there is no one else to blame but him. Now there is a family grieving the loss of a son/brother/nephew etc, a train driver who has been subjected to the direct death of another person and people like Dan who signed up to fix trains but now have to clean up. All because he wanted to spray paint a wall that didn't belong to him in a place he shouldn't have been. I don't think anyone would argue that it isn't a tragedy (ok maybe some of the people in this thread might) but the fact is that through someone's thoughtlessness, a lot of lives have been affected very negatively. None of whom the individual will be held accountable for. That's how I look at it anyway. Maybe it's "cold" or "heartless" but they are the facts as I see them

I don't see you as being cold, you're absolutely right, he was in a place he knew was dangerous and it was his choice to do that, he knew what the risks were. The point where you differ from the cold hearted is where you say that he didn't deserve to die, you see the situation as it is, but you seem to feel empathy for the victim and his family which is more than I can say for others on here.

 

[Aussie-Pride]

LOL he isn't a cop, just likes pretending to be one

Village people??

 

[user 16446]

If all cops had his attitude, i can guarantee you when i that when i graduate from the academy( Fingers xd) Ill do my own little solemn swear, to be his opposite.

I have that attitude because I am a train driver, not a cop.

Now, generally speaking, I have hit people before, (sadly through depression, not vandalism or trespassing) and I have seen what a 400 tonne train does to a human body. You CAN feel a body tumbling around and getting chopped up under a 50 tonne carriage! I don't need to come to work to hit some fool who is not where they should be.

Do I sound harsh? I have to be, in this line of work. Maybe if society weren't such a bunch of soft , sympathetic cupcakes, this person would have got what they really deserved, a public flogging that would keep them off their butt for a month, instead of what they didn't deserve, to be hit by a train.

What about the driver and all other parties involved? They don't deserve the trauma, to lose a family member/friend, witness it, or clean up the mess before the magpies as a result of something so uneccessary.

Society needs to harden up and treat them as they deserve, before there's another fatal accident.

Case closed.

 

[Aussie-Pride]

I have that attitude because I am a train driver, not a cop. I have hit people before, (sadly through depression, not vandalism or trespassing) and I have seen what a 400 tonne train does to a human body. You CAN feel a body tumbling around and getting chopped up under a 50 tonne carriage! I don't need to come to work to hit some fool who is not where they should be.

You think I'm harsh? I have to be, in this line of work. Maybe if society weren't such a bunch of soft , sympathetic cupcakes, this person would have got what they really deserved, a public flogging that would keep them off their butt for a month, instead of what they didn't deserve, to be hit by a train.

What about the driver and all other parties involved? They don't deserve the trauma, to lose a family member/friend, witness it, or clean up the mess before the magpies as a result of something so uneccessary.

Harden up and treat them as they deserve, before there's another fatal accident.

Case closed.

Village people?

 

[user 16446]

Village people??

I wore that uniform as an extra on the set of Underbelly: The Golden Mile. Also done some similar roles on Home and Away in the past too. Anyone can, it's fun, and you can momentarily step out of your life and pretend to be someone else.

 

[Beard]

All the dude probably wanted to do was to make his art. As a result, he died. How is that anyone's fault?

Then find the correct medium and place for it.

What about the bloke that wants to drive really fast and ends up hitting a tree and spreading bits of car and body over the place. No-one has any sympathy for them but with the scheme of things its no different.

There are facilities and environments provided for these and many other activities that people choose not to utilise for what ever reason. Inside a train tunnel........Sorry, but thats just asking for trouble!!!!!

 

[Snakewoman]

I have that attitude because I am a train driver, not a cop. I have hit people before, (sadly through depression, not vandalism or trespassing) and I have seen what a 400 tonne train does to a human body. You CAN feel a body tumbling around and getting chopped up under a 50 tonne carriage! I don't need to come to work to hit some fool who is not where they should be.

You think I'm harsh? I have to be, in this line of work. Maybe if society weren't such a bunch of soft , sympathetic cupcakes, this person would have got what they really deserved, a public flogging that would keep them off their butt for a month, instead of what they didn't deserve, to be hit by a train.

What about the driver and all other parties involved? They don't deserve the trauma, to lose a family member/friend, witness it, or clean up the mess before the magpies as a result of something so uneccessary.

Harden up and treat them as they deserve, before there's another fatal accident.

Case closed.

I understand what you're saying but you knew things like that would happen if you became a train driver. I personally think people, particularly young people who are considering doing the same things as this man did should see the result, sometimes the message won't get through to people unless you shock them by showing them the true reality of these things. I'm sorry you've had to deal with this as a train driver, one of the worst things about it is knowing there's nothing you can do.

 

[Exotic_Doc]

I have that attitude because I am a train driver, not a cop. I have hit people before, (sadly through depression, not vandalism or trespassing) and I have seen what a 400 tonne train does to a human body. You CAN feel a body tumbling around and getting chopped up under a 50 tonne carriage! I don't need to come to work to hit some fool who is not where they should be.

You think I'm harsh? I have to be, in this line of work. Maybe if society weren't such a bunch of soft, sympathetic cupcakes, this person would have got what they really deserved, a public flogging that would keep them off their butt for a month, instead of what they didn't deserve, to be hit by a train.

What about the driver and all other parties involved? They don't deserve the trauma, to lose a family member/friend, witness it, or clean up the mess before the magpies as a result of something so uneccessary.

Harden up and treat them as they deserve, before there's another fatal accident.

Case closed.

I understand what you are saying, and believe me i do empathize with you. Teach them a lesson, im all for that. They are breaking the law, and they deserve to be prosecuted. But no matter what, i do not agree with the people that are hinting that he deserved what he got.

 

[-Peter]

I wore that uniform as an extra on the set of Underbelly: The Golden Mile. Also done some similar roles on Home and Away in the past too. Anyone can, it's fun, and you can momentarily step out of your life and pretend to be someone else.

or you can join an internet forum...
then you just get dressed up in your mind.:lol:

 

[Aussie-Pride]

I wore that uniform as an extra on the set of Underbelly: The Golden Mile. Also done some similar roles on Home and Away in the past too. Anyone can, it's fun, and you can momentarily step out of your life and pretend to be someone else.

Sorry i don't like playing dress ups

 

[Beard]

Sorry i don't like playing dress ups............. on this forum

hmmmmm

 

[user 16446]

Sorry i don't like playing dress ups

When they pay you, it's worth it. Specially if it's only a uniform, and not a dress as such, haha.

One of the more interesting scenes I did (as an ambulance officer) was attending a terrorist car bomb attack from SBS's 'East West 101'. If you forget about the cameras, the whole scene was very surreal. Cars on fire, burnt out shops, burning flyers and ash in the street.....Even people without limbs were dressed up to look like they'd freshly been blown off. Quite a horrific scene in a real life situation. Nice knowing it was all fake in this instance.

Real police were used to close off the street for filming, which actually added to the illusion and real fire brigade were also used. Was quite an interesting day, and the catering was always first class.

 

[Smithers]

Hope your ok mate, I don't see the reason,..only for the fact it's illegal and quite daring at that age to do,...artistic maybe in some cases but there's so many ways to do art today it doesn't have to be a can of spray paint and obnoxiously put it where nobody else wants it. No different than littering in a beautiful park or rainforest...not to mention the fall out if it all goes awry. Hope the support services set in place for this aftermath is working for you mate.

 

[maingoe]

It's just natural selection. Do I feel bad for a mouse I feed to ny snake every week? No. Do I feel bad for the person who grew these mice up and the effectivly mass murdered them? No. It's a natural part of life.

How is a mouses life worth less than a humans? Becuase it takes longer to breed them up? Inteligence? I don't think people are more deserving of oxygen than animals just because we are smarter.

Now if everything lived forever we couldn't have any new life so we currently have the best system where everything dies. Why is it such a shame when a white boy gets hit by a train yet there is war and famine around the rest of the world and all we can think about is ourselves.

Also a few very famous Graf artists comitted suicide by jumping in front of trains due to they realised how crap there lives were, who's to say they this wasn't another case.

As I said before I no a lot of people who paint, and u can't paint a moving train so if this kid wasn't trying to kill himself then he was pretty stupid and maybe parents are to blame and if he was then parents usualy to blame. Train drivers are the only ones to feel sorry for as they don't sign up to kill people

 

[KaotikJezta]

Please enlighten us as to who these famous graf artists that suicided were and how you know they suicided because there lives were crap, or they indeed did commit suicide and were not accidentally hit. Why is being a graf artist equal to having a crap life. Why is the fact that he is a white boy at all relevant and why do you assume people don't care about war and famine just because they have compassion in this regard. I doubt you actually know anyone who paints as if you did you would not be talking about it as if it is the same as killing mice for a snake, not in front of them anyway. No you can't paint a moving train but you can be accidentally hit by one whilst painting a tunnel. So many assumptions in your post and no facts to back them up.

 

[Aussie-Pride]

How did a mouse get brought up into this?? How do you know he was white?? what does war and famine have to do with this?? painting a moving train??

 

[user 16446]

Ah, now it all makes sense, it's all the mouse's fault! lol

 

[Nighthawk]

parents are to blame and if he was then parents usualy to blame.

I was a sufferer of depression and came close to suicide myself. One of the things inherant to recovery (for me at least) was to quit blaming other people for my own emotions and that I was the one to blame for how I felt; no one else can make me feel anything unless I let them.
What have your parents ever done to you to make you state pretty definitively that no matter what his intent in this situation that the parents are to blame?
That's hardly fair. For all you know they could have done the best they could, and you've just pointed the finger at perfectly good parents who had tragedy hit unexpectedly.

 

[Tristis]

Also a few very famous Graf artists comitted suicide by jumping in front of trains due to they realised how crap there lives were, who's to say they this wasn't another case.

As I said before I no a lot of people who paint, and u can't paint a moving train so if this kid wasn't trying to kill himself then he was pretty stupid and maybe parents are to blame and if he was then parents usualy to blame. Train drivers are the only ones to feel sorry for as they don't sign up to kill people

it was not suicide and he wasnt trying to paint a moving train, it was an accident/misjudgement.

you should show some respect for his grieving family rather than blame his parents.

i supose your parents are to blame for your lack of respect.