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I've read lots and lots on here before posting this so if I've missed it somewhere I'm sorry.
I've had my Darwin for 2 weeks now, and everything could not be better. She has been fed and is not hungry.
My problem is, well I'm hoping its not a problem but she is striking at her reflection in the glass. She goes all stiff in an s shape looking at her self for some time as well. I'm worried that this is stressing her too much ( she seems fine otherwise though ) and I'm thinking it can't be good for her mouth?
So should I worry or will she realize the snake in the glass is not a threat to her?


Cheers for any help.

Oh and she is about 1 year old and 1200mm long.
 
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Are you certain she's striking at her reflection and not at movement beyond it? Is she in a high-traffic area? If so, try moving her to a low-traffic area for a while and see if that makes a difference. If not, I'm not sure on any other advice as I've never really had that problem except when the snakes were striking at movement as we've walked past, and that only rarely (they're in their own room and usually only do it when they're hungry apart from one, but she's a mole lol).
 
My Murray Darling does that and I've had her about six months but I am positive she is striking at anyone in the room. Have moved her to a quieter area and cover her when people in the room. She has always been snappy, guess i just need to give her time.
 
Are you certain she's striking at her reflection and not at movement beyond it?
I'm 99% certain its from the reflection, she only does it when no one is in the room. I found out she was doing it when I went to see what the banging was. I just peeked in so I could see what she was doing without her seeing me.
 
Wow; is there any way you could reduce her replection in the glass? That's random as! It's something I'd consider a bit of a worry, especially if she makes a habit of it. What about adjusting the heating system to heat chord? Minimising the amount of light inside the tank should reduce the reflective nature of the glass, kind of like when you put a light on inside at night without shutting the blinds... would that help? Otherwise I'm at a loss.
 
It's showing that it's stressed.Try covering the front of the glass with a cloth or something.
 
Hi Brian, that is pretty weird, they will sometimes strike at things moving outside their cage but to strike at their own reflection is unusual. Try putting a sheet over the front of the cage for awhile to quieten her down and reduce the stress levels. I must admit I have never had one that would strike at nothing other than their own reflection. Is she still OK to handle ? Getting her out and letting her crawl around for awhile will reduce the stress.
 
Putting a sheet over the tank would intensify any reflections if there's a light (heat or uv) inside the tank. On the plus side you'd be 100% certain about her striking at her reflection as opposed to 99%...
 
Thanks for the replies everyone, much appreciated.
Is she still OK to handle ? Getting her out and letting her crawl around for awhile will reduce the stress.

Yeah she is a very quite snake apart from doing this.
I'm waiting on a heat pad for the roof of the cage to be delivered as we speek. I'm thinking if there's no light in the cage she won't get a reflection and fix the problem.
 
Glad to hear she is still quiet and doesnt want to bite you :) Yeah that could be a good idea, a light isn't really necessary, it only helps us with viewing.

Yeah she is a very quite snake apart from doing this.
I'm waiting on a heat pad for the roof of the cage to be delivered as we speek. I'm thinking if there's no light in the cage she won't get a reflection and fix the problem.
 
Hey! Sorry to hear about your strikey python. I do have some tips for you though :D

I've had this problem with a wild caught adult male BHP who had shattered the glass from his enclosure THREE times at the pet shop before i bought him...needless to say he was there a long time. I also keep large predatory aquarium fish and they will often have a go at their own reflection, especially males. I would, however agree with other replies that the python is striking at movement near the enclosure, although it could still be its reflection.

There are a couple of things you can do.

For aquarium fish, we painted both ends of the tank with black matt paint on the outsides and ensured there was a background fastened to the back of the glass and added complex rockwork for them to retreat to and that stopped the problem for them.

For the BHP we tried a number of things- we kept him in the loungeroom (mid traffic area) and yes, he would S bend up at his reflection when we were sitting on the couch out of view, so i know it happens- he couldnt see any movement so he was definitely bothered by his own reflection. He also behaved the same when someone walked past his tank if he was awake. We did the same as we did for the fish- we bought him a wooden enclosure with just glass at the front (effectively painting the sides). We also faced his reptile hide so the hole faced diagonally onto a back corner of the tank- we could just see in on an angle from the front, but he couldnt see us while he was curled in there- this meant he didn't see flashes of light while he was in the hide, awake, while people walked past.

The other thing we did was go to a fake plant shop (people order silk flowers and fake aquarium plants from these sorts of places) and we constructed a bit of a screen i guess you would call it, in between his hide and the glass. Basically what this did was reduce the reflection and reduce his field of vision from what he could see of the room. Firstly we started with a dense cover of fake plants for the length of 2/3 of his enclosure(they were about 5" back from the glass). This settled him dramatically and we actually found that he would adventure out from his hide for longer periods of the afternoon instead of striking from his hide like used to- he would lie behind or in the plants. I believe the extra cover made him feel more secure and he had better hiding spots as well. We left him like this for a good few weeks and then slowly (gradually!) began to reduce the plant cover. It worked a treat, and whilst he stayed slightly cage defensive, you could walk past the enclosure while he was out and about with no problems and he never shattered any glass while he was with me :D In the end his enclosure still had a fair few plants in it, but they were sparsely spread at different intervals around his tank.

I never found the sheet idea to work well, as you have to lift it off at some stage and that seemed to freak him out (we tried that too.) We also tried placing his enclosure in the study where there was very little traffic (actually none at all really) but that didnt fix the problem either. I believe some snakes that aren't so 'damaged' as in.. the problem is just defensive and they havent been doing it that long, the sheet idea and low traffic areas can work until the snake is settled in. Our BHP was 6 years old and who knows how long he'd been striking at the glass in that pet shop with little kids rapping their fingers on his enclosure trying to make him move, but i think his problem was a bit more extensive and he just couldnt feel secure.

We sold our BHP to a breeder who wanted to breed from him and he has told us since that he never had any problems with him (except the cage defensiveness- but that's what hooks are for!)- and now uses him as part of an education program and says he is a calm, happy boy now :)

Good luck, i hope you like the above ideas :)
 
I'm 99% certain its from the reflection, she only does it when no one is in the room. I found out she was doing it when I went to see what the banging was. I just peeked in so I could see what she was doing without her seeing me.
try putting a peice of cardboard on the inside so she cant see her reflection see if she stops it... thats my 2c worth.
 
Can you post a pic of the enclosure so we can see the environment?
 
I would put some greenery in there, some more hiding places. Also your snake maybe
striking at the reflection of the light on the glass. Maybe also a horizontal branch. It looks
like a fairly large enclosure for a bub Darwin. Do you know how big her previous enclosure was?
 
I would put some greenery in there, some more hiding places. Also your snake maybe
striking at the reflection of the light on the glass. Maybe also a horizontal branch. It looks
like a fairly large enclosure for a bub Darwin. Do you know how big her previous enclosure was?
Yeah I agree Its big for her, there is a full partition from top to bottom in the middle with a hole saw hole down the bottom for her to get through.
On the left you can see there is a shelf, it only has 1 hole saw hole in it too for her to get up/down through so while it looks big its not all open. Right side is all open from top to bottom. I have put a triangle corner shelf near the top of the right side since this pic was taken just incase she wants something flat to lay on.

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