Yep there are some real "silly people" that fequent this site, and some have no real idea about reptile this is why they continue to create trouble for those that are truely interested in herp.....sure slatey that the chit chat is for thing other than herp stuff but I dont think it should be used for disrespecting other, slandering and those people that jump on this site to upset others should be deleted.....I am sorry to see people leave because of this reason I was going to leave a short time back but decided that its a great site take away the w*nkers and I have learnt move away from that stupidity that some members have shown...